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==Medium Caliber Main Guns== | ==Medium Caliber Main Guns== | ||
+ | {{imbox|type= content|textstyle = color: red; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;|text= This section is [[:Category:Outdated Articles|outdated]] and needs updating.<br> Devs have tweeted about adjusting invisible fits{{cite}}, some data is outdated or missing sources.<br> Potential misinformation. [[Category:Outdated Articles]]}} | ||
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Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. | Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. | ||
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!rowspan="2"|'''Ship Class''' | !rowspan="2"|'''Ship Class''' | ||
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Single Gun Mount|text=15.2cm Single}} ([[File:YellowGun.png|26px]]) |
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin Kai}} |
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cmK}} |
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15.2cm | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15.2cm}} |
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=15.5cmK}} |
− | !colspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm | + | !colspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(2)}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(3)}} |
− | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53| | + | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53}} |
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|8inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.9|text=8inch Mk.9}}<br /> {{Equipment/Link|8inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.9 mod.2|text=8inch Mk.9 m.2}} | ||
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!colspan="1"|Day | !colspan="1"|Day | ||
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|'''CL(T)''' | |'''CL(T)''' | ||
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +3{{Hit}} ??{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +3{{Hit}} ??{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2 -2N{{Hit}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2 -2N{{Hit}} |
− | |colspan="2"| | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#FFCDD2" colspan="2" rowspan="3"| -3N?{{Hit}}<ref>https://twitter.com/Xe_UCH/status/1167262181152309248?s=20</ref> |
− | |style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2 -2.5N??{{Hit}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#FFCDD2" rowspan="3"| -2 -2.5N?{{Hit}} |
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373" rowspan="3"| -10N?{{Hit}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{Ship/Link|Agano|Noshiro|Yahagi|Sakawa|text=Agano Class|link_class=Agano}} | |{{Ship/Link|Agano|Noshiro|Yahagi|Sakawa|text=Agano Class|link_class=Agano}} | ||
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#81C784"| +5 +2N{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784"| +5 +2N{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#81C784"| +5 +2N{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784"| +5 +2N{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? | |
− | |style="background-color:# | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2 -2N{{Hit}} |
− | |||
− | |style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2 - | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{Ship/Link|Ooyodo|text=Ooyodo Class|link_class=Ooyodo}} | |{{Ship/Link|Ooyodo|text=Ooyodo Class|link_class=Ooyodo}} | ||
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +4N{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} |
− | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? | |
− | |style="background-color:# | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784"| +2{{Hit}} |
− | |||
− | |style="background-color:# | ||
|- | |- | ||
|'''CA(V)''' | |'''CA(V)''' | ||
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |?? | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? |
− | | | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# " rowspan="4"| 0 |
− | | | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784" rowspan="4"| {{Nowrap|'''+5 +5N?'''}}{{Hit}} |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
|- | |- | ||
|{{Ship/Link|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class|link_class=Mogami}} | |{{Ship/Link|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +2{{Hit}} |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
|- | |- | ||
|{{Ship/Link|Suzuya/Kai Ni|Kumano/Kai Ni|text=Mogami Class Kai Ni|link_class=Mogami}} | |{{Ship/Link|Suzuya/Kai Ni|Kumano/Kai Ni|text=Mogami Class Kai Ni|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7"| +5{{Hit}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"| +5{{Hit}} |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
|- | |- | ||
|{{Ship/Link|Zara|Pola|text=Zara Class|link_class=Zara}} | |{{Ship/Link|Zara|Pola|text=Zara Class|link_class=Zara}} | ||
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | |?? | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? |
− | |style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +1{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"| +1{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''Seaplane Tenders (AV)''' | |'''Seaplane Tenders (AV)''' | ||
− | |?? | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? |
− | |style="background-color:#E57373"| - | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"| -6N{{Hit}} |
− | |style="background-color:#E57373"| -6N{{Hit}} | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"| -6N{{Hit}} |
− | |0 | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| 0 |
− | | ?? | + | |style="color: ;background-color:# "| ?? |
− | |colspan="2" style="background-color:#E57373"| -8 -10N{{Hit}} | + | |colspan="2" style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"| -8 -10N{{Hit}} |
|?? | |?? | ||
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* The night fit bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates. | * The night fit bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates. | ||
* There is a possibility that certain fit categories only work during the day. The possibility is plausible, but there's no concrete data proving. The alternative theory is that the night bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. | * There is a possibility that certain fit categories only work during the day. The possibility is plausible, but there's no concrete data proving. The alternative theory is that the night bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. | ||
− | * The information in this table is sourced from [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo | + | * The information in this table is sourced from these two spreadsheets ([https://twitter.com/yukicacoon/status/1301508712780111872 1]) ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo 2]) the latter maintained by Dewy, both with the relevant sources linked in the spreadsheet. |
− | *As of 13th December the hidden firepower bonus of {{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}} does not work/does not exist. | + | *As of 13th December 2018 the hidden firepower bonus of {{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}} does not work/does not exist{{cite}}. |
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|colspan="8"|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: {{colour|red|'''June 23rd 2019'''}}</span> | |colspan="8"|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: {{colour|red|'''June 23rd 2019'''}}</span> |
Revision as of 14:07, 17 May 2022
This article is Overweight Penalty/Fit Gun Bonus The article is already being adopted and currently under renovation. |
Missing Information: Fit Gun table for BB, updated information and sources, quantified effects |
Page Adopted By: Tsubakura Please contact this person before making any major (non-grammar, typo correction, redesigning etc.) edits on this article. |
See also:
Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty
With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.
As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.
Fit mechanics do not apply to the abyssal fleet.[1]
Large Caliber Main Guns
Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight[2]. How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night.
Ship Class | (P)35.6cm(DC), 38cm(K), 30.5cm(K), 38.1cm (/N) |
38cm四, 38cmK四 |
381mm, 381mmK |
41cm | 16inch (United States Navy) | 16inch (Royal Navy) | 46cm | P51cm, 51cm | ||||||||||||||||||
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41cm, Proto, Kai |
3K2 | 2K2 | Mk.7 | Mk.7 +GFCS |
Mk.6 mod.2 |
Mk.I | +AFCT | Kai +FCR |
Proto | 46cm | Kai | |||||||||||||||
Gangut | +7 30.5cm: +10 |
0 | +1 | -7 | -3 | -9~10? | ?? | ?? | -7 | -18 | ?? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Kongou Class |
+7 | 0 | -2 | -5 | -5? | -5 | -6~7? | -5 | -6 | -3 | -7 | -10 | -10? | |||||||||||||
Bismarck Vittorio Veneto Class |
+4 | 0? | +1 | -5 | -5 | -4? | -5 | ?? | ?? | -7 | -10 | ?? | ||||||||||||||
Iowa | +4? | 0? | -2? | -5 | 0 | +2 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||||||||||
South Dakota | -5 M: +4.6 |
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Richelieu | +4 | +4~5 | -2 | -5 | -5 | -7 | -14? | -8 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||||||||
Warspite | +6 38.1cm: +8 |
+1~2 | +2 | -2? | +5 | ?? | +3~4 | -8 | -11 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||
Nelson | 0 | 0 | +3? | 0 | 0 | |||||||||||||||||||||
BBV |
+4 | 0 | +2 | +2 | 0 | 0? | -3 | -7 F+: -11? |
-4? | |||||||||||||||||
Ise-class Kai Ni |
+4? | 0? | +4? | +4? | +6 | +2 | ?? | -7 F+: -11? |
?? | |||||||||||||||||
Ise/Fusou Class Base |
+2 | 0? | +2 | +2 | +2 | +2? | +3 | -3 | -7 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||
Nagato Class |
0 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nagato Class Kai Ni | +2? | 0? | +2? | +5 | +5 | +5~6 | 0 | +4 | -2? | -4? | -6? | Nagato: -5 Mutsu: -8 | ||||||||||||||
Yamato Class |
0 | +3 | +3 | +7 | 0 | |||||||||||||||||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.
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Last Updated: Aug 24th 2020 | Made by: Tsubakura |
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]
Where:
- [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] is the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
- [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] is the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
- [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] is the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
- [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] is the number of equipped guns for that gun class.
Medium Caliber Main Guns
This section is outdated and needs updating. Devs have tweeted about adjusting invisible fits[citation needed], some data is outdated or missing sources. Potential misinformation. |
Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out.
Ship Class | 14cm Single 15.2cm Single () |
14cm Twin 14cm Twin Kai |
15.2cm 15.2cmK |
Bofors 15.2cm | 15.5cm 15.5cmK |
20.3cm 20.3cm(2) 20.3cm(3) |
203mm/53 | 8inch Mk.9 8inch Mk.9 m.2 | ||||||||
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Day | Night | |||||||||||||||
CL(T) | +4N +1 | +2 +2 | +2 +2 | +3 ?? | -2 -2N | -3N?[3] | -2 -2.5N? | -10N? | ||||||||
Agano Class |
+4N +1 | +5 +2N +2 | +5 +2N +2 | ?? | -2 -2N | |||||||||||
Ooyodo Class | +4N +1 | +2 +2 | +2 +2 | ?? | +2 | |||||||||||
CA(V) | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | 0 | +5 +5N? | 0 | ||||||||
Mogami Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | +2 | 0 | ||||||||||
Mogami Class Kai Ni |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | +5 | 0 | ||||||||||
Zara Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | +1 +1 | ||||||||||
Seaplane Tenders (AV) | ?? | -6N | -6N | 0 | ?? | -8 -10N | ?? | |||||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark means that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.
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Last Updated: June 23rd 2019 | Made by: Tsubakura |
Small Caliber Main Guns
As of June 23, Yura and Mutsuki/Kamikaze-class destroyers gain fit bonuses from having single mount equipped.
Ship | 12.7cm Single HA Mount (Late Model) | 12.7cm Twin HA Mount (Late Model) |
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Light Cruisers (CL) | +4N | +2 +2N |
Yura Kai Ni | +4 +10N | |
Mutsuki-class |
+5 | |
Kamikaze-class |
?? | |
Unknown factors:
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Last Updated: December 5th 2018 | Made by: Tsubakura |
References
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