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!rowspan=2|Ship Class | !rowspan=2|Ship Class | ||
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount (Dazzle Camouflage)|Prototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount|text=IJN 35. | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount (Dazzle Camouflage)|Prototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount|text=IJN 35.6cm}}<br> |
− | {{Equipment/Link|38cm Twin Gun Mount|38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=KMS | + | {{Equipment/Link|38cm Twin Gun Mount|38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=KMS 38cm}}<br> |
− | {{Equipment/Link|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=Sov 30. | + | {{Equipment/Link|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=Sov 30.5cm}}<br> |
− | {{Equipment/Link|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=RN 38. | + | {{Equipment/Link|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=RN 38.1cm}} |
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai|text=Fr | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai|text=Fr 38cm}} |
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=RM | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=RM 381mm}} |
− | !colspan=3|IJN | + | !colspan=3|IJN 41cm |
− | !colspan=3|USN | + | !colspan=3|USN 16inch Twin |
− | !colspan=3|USN | + | !colspan=3|USN 16inch Triple |
− | !colspan=3|RN | + | !colspan=3|RN 16inch |
− | !colspan=3|IJN | + | !colspan=3|IJN 46cm |
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount|51cm Twin Gun Mount|text= | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount|51cm Twin Gun Mount|text=51cm Twin}} |
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|Prototype 51cm Triple Gun Mount|text= | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|Prototype 51cm Triple Gun Mount|text=51cm Triple}} |
|- | |- | ||
!{{Equipment/Link|41cm Twin Gun Mount|Prototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=basic}} | !{{Equipment/Link|41cm Twin Gun Mount|Prototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=basic}} | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|[[:Category:Gangut Class|''Gangut''-class]] | |[[:Category:Gangut Class|''Gangut''-class]] | ||
− | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784"|<!--35.6cm --> +7<br>'''Sov 30. | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784"|<!--35.6cm --> +7<br>'''Sov 30.5cm:''' +10 |
|style="color:black;background-color:#CFE2F3"|<!--38cmQuad --> 0 | |style="color:black;background-color:#CFE2F3"|<!--38cmQuad --> 0 | ||
|style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"|<!--381mm --> +1 | |style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"|<!--381mm --> +1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|[[:Category:Queen Elizabeth Class|''Queen Elizabeth''-class]] | |[[:Category:Queen Elizabeth Class|''Queen Elizabeth''-class]] | ||
− | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"|<!--35.6cm --> +6 <br> '''RN 38. | + | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"|<!--35.6cm --> +6 <br> '''RN 38.1cm:''' +8 |
| |<!--38cmQuad --> | | |<!--38cmQuad --> | ||
|style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"|<!--381mm --> +1~2 | |style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"|<!--381mm --> +1~2 | ||
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* The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | * The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | ||
* For married ships, the overweight penalty is generally reduced by 40%: | * For married ships, the overweight penalty is generally reduced by 40%: | ||
− | ** E.g. a married Kongou with a | + | ** E.g. a married Kongou with a 46cm receives -6 instead of -10, |
** Some exceptions will receive a bonus instead of a penalty on certain guns after marriage. | ** Some exceptions will receive a bonus instead of a penalty on certain guns after marriage. | ||
* If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of the number of guns: | * If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of the number of guns: | ||
− | ** E.g. a Kongou with two IJN 35. | + | ** E.g. a Kongou with two IJN 35.6cm equipped receives √2 x 7 = 9.89. |
* If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together. | * If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together. | ||
− | ** E.g. a Kongou with 35. | + | ** E.g. a Kongou with 35.6cm and 41cm mixed receives 7 - 5 = 2. |
− | ** Exceptions arise where different guns of the same class give different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut, with what happens when combining 30. | + | ** Exceptions arise where different guns of the same class give different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut, with what happens when combining 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigation. |
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula: | More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula: | ||
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!rowspan=4|Japanese | !rowspan=4|Japanese | ||
![[:Category:Kongou Class|''Kongou''-class]]<br>[[:Category:Fusou Class|''Fusou''-class]]<br>[[:Category:Ise Class|''Ise''-class]] | ![[:Category:Kongou Class|''Kongou''-class]]<br>[[:Category:Fusou Class|''Fusou''-class]]<br>[[:Category:Ise Class|''Ise''-class]] | ||
− | !35. | + | !35.6cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount (Dazzle Camouflage)}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount (Dazzle Camouflage)}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Twin Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Triple Gun Mount Kai (Dazzle Camouflage)}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|35.6cm Triple Gun Mount Kai (Dazzle Camouflage)}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[:Category:Fusou Class|''Fusou''-class Kai Ni]]<br>[[:Category:Ise Class|''Ise''-class Kai Ni]]<br>[[:Category:Nagato Class|''Nagato''-class]] | ![[:Category:Fusou Class|''Fusou''-class Kai Ni]]<br>[[:Category:Ise Class|''Ise''-class Kai Ni]]<br>[[:Category:Nagato Class|''Nagato''-class]] | ||
− | ! | + | !41cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Twin Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Twin Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai Ni}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[:Category:Yamato Class|''Yamato''-class]] | ![[:Category:Yamato Class|''Yamato''-class]] | ||
− | ! | + | !46cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 46cm Twin Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 46cm Twin Gun Mount}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|46cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|46cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|46cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|46cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[:Category:Yamato Class|''Yamato''-class Kai Ni]] | ![[:Category:Yamato Class|''Yamato''-class Kai Ni]] | ||
− | ! | + | !51cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|51cm Twin Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|51cm Twin Gun Mount}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 51cm Triple Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|Prototype 51cm Triple Gun Mount}} | ||
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!rowspan=3|US | !rowspan=3|US | ||
![[:Category:Colorado Class|''Colorado''-class]] | ![[:Category:Colorado Class|''Colorado''-class]] | ||
− | !rowspan=3|40, | + | !rowspan=3|40,64cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.V Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.VIII Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.V Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.VIII Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
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!rowspan=2|British | !rowspan=2|British | ||
![[:Category:Queen Elizabeth Class|''Queen Elizabeth''-class]] | ![[:Category:Queen Elizabeth Class|''Queen Elizabeth''-class]] | ||
− | !38. | + | !38.1cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[:Category:Nelson Class|''Nelson''-class]] | ![[:Category:Nelson Class|''Nelson''-class]] | ||
− | !40, | + | !40,64cm |
| | | | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount + AFCT Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount Kai + FCR Type 284}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount + AFCT Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|16inch Mk.I Triple Gun Mount Kai + FCR Type 284}} | ||
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!rowspan=3|Italian | !rowspan=3|Italian | ||
!rowspan=2|[[:Category:Conte di Cavour Class|''Conte di Cavour''-class]] | !rowspan=2|[[:Category:Conte di Cavour Class|''Conte di Cavour''-class]] | ||
− | !30. | + | !30.5cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|305mm/46 Twin Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|305mm/46 Twin Gun Mount}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|305mm/46 Triple Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|305mm/46 Triple Gun Mount}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | ! | + | !32cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|320mm/44 Twin Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|320mm/44 Twin Gun Mount}} | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|320mm/44 Triple Gun Mount}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|320mm/44 Triple Gun Mount}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
![[:Category:Vittorio Veneto Class|''Vittorio Veneto''-class]] | ![[:Category:Vittorio Veneto Class|''Vittorio Veneto''-class]] | ||
− | !38. | + | !38.1cm |
| | | | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
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!German | !German | ||
![[:Category:Bismarck Class|''Bismarck''-class]] | ![[:Category:Bismarck Class|''Bismarck''-class]] | ||
− | ! | + | !38cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Twin Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
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!French | !French | ||
![[:Category:Richelieu Class|''Richelieu''-class]] | ![[:Category:Richelieu Class|''Richelieu''-class]] | ||
− | ! | + | !38cm |
|{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai Deux}}<br>'"Double Twin Guns" in a Quadruple Mount.'' | |{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai}}{{QuestRewardEquip|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai Deux}}<br>'"Double Twin Guns" in a Quadruple Mount.'' | ||
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!Russian | !Russian | ||
![[:Category:Gangut Class|''Gangut''-class]] | ![[:Category:Gangut Class|''Gangut''-class]] | ||
− | !30. | + | !30.5cm |
| | | | ||
|{{QuestRewardEquip|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | |{{QuestRewardEquip|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount}}{{QuestRewardEquip|30.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai}} | ||
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|- | |- | ||
!A | !A | ||
− | |{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text= | + | |{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin Kai}} |
|- | |- | ||
!B | !B | ||
− | |{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15. | + | |{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm Twin}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cm Twin Kai}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai Ni|text=15.2cm Twin Kai Ni}} |
− | {{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15. | + | {{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15.2cm Twin Mod 1930}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15cm Twin Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.9 Model 1938|text=Bofors 15cm Twin Mk9 Mod 1938}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15cm Twin Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.9 Kai + Single Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.10 Kai Model 1938|text=Bofors 15cm Twin Mk9 Kai + Single Mk10 Kai Mod 1938}} |
{{Equipment/Link|6inch Twin Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.XXI|text=6" Twin MkXXI}} | {{Equipment/Link|6inch Twin Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.XXI|text=6" Twin MkXXI}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
!C | !C | ||
− | |{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15. | + | |{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm Triple}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=15.5cm Triple Kai}} |
|- | |- | ||
!D | !D | ||
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{{Equipment/Link|6inch Mk.XXIII Triple Gun Mount|text=6" Triple MkXXIII}} | {{Equipment/Link|6inch Mk.XXIII Triple Gun Mount|text=6" Triple MkXXIII}} | ||
− | {{Equipment/Link|152mm/55 Triple Rapid Fire Gun Mount|text= | + | {{Equipment/Link|152mm/55 Triple Rapid Fire Gun Mount|text=152mm/55 Triple}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|152mm/55 Triple Rapid Fire Gun Mount Kai|text=152mm/55 Triple Kai}} |
|- | |- | ||
!E | !E | ||
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|- | |- | ||
!F | !F | ||
− | |{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20. | + | |{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm Twin}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm N°2 Twin}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm N°3 Twin}} |
− | {{Equipment/Link|SKC34 20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=SKC34 20. | + | {{Equipment/Link|SKC34 20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=SKC34 20.3cm Twin}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53 Twin}} |
|- | |- | ||
!G | !G | ||
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!Ships | !Ships | ||
!{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single}} | !{{Equipment/Link|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single}} | ||
− | !{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin /Kai}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15. | + | !{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin /Kai}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cm /Kai}}<br> |
− | {{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15. | + | {{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15.2cm}}{{·}}{{Equipment/Link|6inch Twin Rapid Fire Gun Mount Mk.XXI|text=6" Twin MkXXI}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''CL(T)/CT''' | |'''CL(T)/CT''' | ||
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!rowspan=2|Ships | !rowspan=2|Ships | ||
!rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin /Kai}} | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin /Kai}} | ||
− | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15. | + | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cm /Kai}} |
!rowspan=2|C | !rowspan=2|C | ||
− | !colspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=IJN 20. | + | !colspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=IJN 20.3cm}} |
!rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53}} | !rowspan=2|{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53}} | ||
!rowspan=2|G | !rowspan=2|G | ||
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** E.g. 2 guns of 2N = 4 Acc | ** E.g. 2 guns of 2N = 4 Acc | ||
* Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together. | * Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together. | ||
− | * The night fit bonus from the '''IJN 20. | + | * The night fit bonus from the '''IJN 20.3cm''' series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates. |
** It is possible that certain fit categories only work during the day, but there is no concrete data proving it yet. | ** It is possible that certain fit categories only work during the day, but there is no concrete data proving it yet. | ||
** It is alternatively possible that the night bonus from the '''IJN 20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. | ** It is alternatively possible that the night bonus from the '''IJN 20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. | ||
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'''''Sources: [https://twitter.com/yukicacoon/status/1301508712780111872] [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo/edit#gid=1787693456]''''' | '''''Sources: [https://twitter.com/yukicacoon/status/1301508712780111872] [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo/edit#gid=1787693456]''''' | ||
− | =12. | + | =12.7cm HA Late Models= |
− | As of [https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/878185448341782529 2017/06/23], Yura Kai Ni, ''Mutsuki''-classes, and ''Kamikaze''-classes gain accuracy {{Hit}} bonuses with some main Late Models High Angle 12. | + | As of [https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/878185448341782529 2017/06/23], Yura Kai Ni, ''Mutsuki''-classes, and ''Kamikaze''-classes gain accuracy {{Hit}} bonuses with some main Late Models High Angle 12.7cm guns {{GreenGunDP}}. |
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center; margin:auto" | {|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center; margin:auto" | ||
!Ship | !Ship | ||
− | !{{Equipment/Link|12.7cm Single High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12. | + | !{{Equipment/Link|12.7cm Single High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12.7cm Single HA Mount (LM)}} |
− | !{{Equipment/Link|12.7cm Twin High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12. | + | !{{Equipment/Link|12.7cm Twin High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12.7cm Twin HA Mount (LM)}} |
|- | |- | ||
|'''CL(T)/CT''' | |'''CL(T)/CT''' | ||
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* Only {{Ship/Link|Yura Kai Ni}} and {{Ship/Link|Satsuki Kai Ni}} were tested. It is unknown whether the other ships listed also receive those bonuses, or whether it only works for specific remodels. | * Only {{Ship/Link|Yura Kai Ni}} and {{Ship/Link|Satsuki Kai Ni}} were tested. It is unknown whether the other ships listed also receive those bonuses, or whether it only works for specific remodels. | ||
* The variable '''N''' refers to the number of guns of that category equipped (ex: 2 guns of 2N = 4). | * The variable '''N''' refers to the number of guns of that category equipped (ex: 2 guns of 2N = 4). | ||
− | * It is unknown whether the {{Equipment/Link|12cm Single High-angle Gun Mount|text=12. | + | * It is unknown whether the {{Equipment/Link|12cm Single High-angle Gun Mount|text=12.7cm Single HA}} gives any bonus. |
'''''Sources: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo/edit#gid=1788734369]''''' | '''''Sources: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo/edit#gid=1788734369]''''' |
Revision as of 00:51, 21 August 2022
Hidden fit bonus mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark are lacking enough data and so may be outdated and/or erroneous. Empty cases are unmapped yet. The developers have also adjusted hidden fits multiple times. |
The "hidden fit bonus" mechanic refers to some ships receiving bonuses or penalties when equipping certain equipment, depending on if the equipment "fits" the class or not.
- This almost exclusively refers to main guns, where each class of ship is engineered to carry up to certain gun calibers, and so, equipping gun turrets of the right caliber or lower will imply an accuracy bonus, whereas using larger calibers will result in some overweight penalties.
- So far, all fits involve Accuracy , and some also affect Firepower .
- Not to be confused with visible Equipment Bonuses.
As hidden bonuses are unaffected by morale or fleet types (e.g. combined fleets), it can be interesting to utilize those fit bonuses as much as possible.
How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on:
- The ship class, larger classes being able to carry larger equipment,
- If the ship is married or not, married girls having better fits,
- The gun size (caliber and quantity per turret), the larger ones being the most constraining.
- Some other less frequent factors:
- The ship's remodel,
- The ship's speed,
- Whether it is a day or night battle.
Battleships (F)BB(V) Bonuses
Battleships receive accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and penalties if it is overweight[1].
Ship Class | IJN 35.6cm |
Fr 38cm |
RM 381mm |
IJN 41cm | USN 16inch Twin | USN 16inch Triple | RN 16inch | IJN 46cm | 51cm Twin |
51cm Triple | ||||||||||
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basic |
Triple K2 | Twin K2 | Mk.I | Mk.V | Mk.VIII | Mk.7 | Mk.7 +GFCS |
Mk.6 mod.2 |
Mk.I | +AFCT | Kai +FCR |
Proto | 46cm | Kai | ||||||
Gangut-class | +7 Sov 30.5cm: +10 |
0 | +1 | -7 | ?? | -5 | ?? | -3 | -7 | ?? | ?? | -7 | -18 | ?? | N/A | |||||
Kongou-class | +7 | 0 | -2 | -5 | -5? | -5 | -6~7? | -5 | -6 | -3 | -7 | -10 | -10? | |||||||
Bismarck-class Vittorio Veneto-class |
+4 | 0? | +1 | -5 | -5 | -4? | -5 | ?? | ?? | -7 | -10 | ?? | ||||||||
Iowa-class | +4? | 0? | -2? | -5 | 0 | +2 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||||
Colorado-class | +1 | +2 | -2 | ?? | ?? | -6~7 | ||||||||||||||
South Dakota-class | -5 M: +4.6 |
?? | ?? | ?? | ||||||||||||||||
Richelieu-class | +4 | +4~5 | -2 | -2 | -5 | -7 | -14? | -8 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||
Queen Elizabeth-class | +6 RN 38.1cm: +8 |
+1~2 | +2 | -2? | +5 | ?? | +3~4 | -8 | -11 | ?? | ||||||||||
Nelson-class | 0 | 0 | +3? | 0 | 0 | ?? | -2~+1 | ?? | ||||||||||||
Fusou-class Kai/Ni Ise-class Kai |
+4 | 0 | +2 | +2 | 0 | 0? | -3 | -7 F+: -11? |
-4? | |||||||||||
Ise-class Kai Ni | +4? | 0 | +1? | +4? | +4? | +6 | +1~2 | +2 | ?? | -7 F+: -11? |
?? | |||||||||
Fusou-class base Ise-class base |
+2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | +2 | +2? | +3 | +3 | -3 | -7 | ?? | |||||||||
Nagato-class base/Kai | 0 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||||
Nagato-class Kai Ni | +2? | 0 | +1? | +5 | +5 | +6 | Mutsu: +2~3 | ?? | ?? | 0 | +4 | -2? | -4? | -6? | Nagato: -5 Mutsu: -8 |
?? | ||||
Yamato-class | 0 | +3 | +3 | +7 | 0 | ?? | ||||||||||||||
Yamato Kai Ni[2] (FBB) | 0 | ?? | -7 | ?? | ?? | -10 |
- The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having one fit gun equipped.
- For married ships, the overweight penalty is generally reduced by 40%:
- E.g. a married Kongou with a 46cm receives -6 instead of -10,
- Some exceptions will receive a bonus instead of a penalty on certain guns after marriage.
- If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of the number of guns:
- E.g. a Kongou with two IJN 35.6cm equipped receives √2 x 7 = 9.89.
- If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together.
- E.g. a Kongou with 35.6cm and 41cm mixed receives 7 - 5 = 2.
- Exceptions arise where different guns of the same class give different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut, with what happens when combining 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigation.
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]
With:
- [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
- [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
- [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
- [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] the number of equipped guns for that gun class.
Native Guns
Since gun overweight penalty and fit bonuses are not yet all measured for some guns and ships, here is a list of the guns natively used/planned to be used in real life by each ship class.
- The "Twin/Triple" mount distinction is made for convenience, triple guns being heavier than their twin counterpart.
- Equipping ships with those guns may not always be optimal, but this should avoid most overweight penalties.
Large Guns | ||||
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Nation | Class | Caliber | Twin | Triple |
Japanese | Kongou-class Fusou-class Ise-class |
35.6cm | ||
Fusou-class Kai Ni Ise-class Kai Ni Nagato-class |
41cm | |||
Yamato-class | 46cm | |||
Yamato-class Kai Ni | 51cm | |||
US | Colorado-class | 40,64cm | ||
North Carolina-class South Dakota-class |
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Iowa-class | ||||
British | Queen Elizabeth-class | 38.1cm | ||
Nelson-class | 40,64cm | |||
Italian | Conte di Cavour-class | 30.5cm | ||
32cm | ||||
Vittorio Veneto-class | 38.1cm | |||
German | Bismarck-class | 38cm | ||
French | Richelieu-class | 38cm | '"Double Twin Guns" in a Quadruple Mount. |
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Russian | Gangut-class | 30.5cm |
Cruiser Bonuses
Notes:
- Future Medium Guns may fall in one of those categories based on similarities like caliber and number of guns.
Light Cruisers (CL/CLT/CT)
Accuracy bonuses for Light Cruisers (CL), Torpedo Cruisers (CLT), and Training Cruisers (CT).
Ships | Guns group[1] | Accuracy bonus/penalty | ||
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1st Gun | 2nd Gun | Unmarried | Married | |
Default to every CL(T)/CT |
- | - | 0 | 0 |
A/B | A/B | 0 | 2 | |
C | C | -5? | -1? | |
D | D | -6 | -3.6 | |
E | E | |||
F | F | |||
F | - | -3 | -1.8 | |
G | G | -22 | -17.6 | |
Agano-class | B | - | 5 | 7 |
B | B | 6 | 8 | |
F | F | -8 | -6 | |
Ooyodo | C | C | -2 | -1.2 |
F | F | -10 | -8 | |
Atlanta-class | E | E | 0 | 3 |
Abyssals | - | - | 0[2] | - |
Any Medium Gun | - | -3[3] | - |
- There is not enough data to pin down the exact fit accuracy formula.
- Other gun combinations fits cannot be extrapolated yet.
- There are known tests where the fit bonuses do not scale linearly with the number of guns.
- ↑ Changing gun order does not affect the final bonus
- ↑ Light Cruiser Tsu-Class
- ↑ Light Cruiser Ho-Class, Light Cruiser He-Class, Light Cruiser To-Class, Torpedo Cruiser Chi-Class
Firepower bonuses for Light Cruisers (CL), Torpedo Cruisers (CLT), and Training Cruisers (CT).
Ships | 14cm Single | 14cm Twin /Kai · 15.2cm /Kai |
---|---|---|
CL(T)/CT | +1 | +2 |
Heavy Cruisers (CA/CAV)
Accuracy bonuses for Heavy Cruisers (CA), Aviation Cruisers (CAV), as well as some other "Medium Guns capable ships" like Seaplane Tenders (AV), Kamoi (AO forms).
- Other ships like Submarine Tenders (AS) are unmapped yet.
Ships | 14cm Twin /Kai |
15.2cm /Kai |
C | IJN 20.3cm |
203mm/53 | G | |
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Day | Night | ||||||
CA(V) | 0 | +5 +5N? | 0 | ||||
Mogami-class | +2 | ||||||
Mogami-class Kai Ni | +5 | ||||||
Zara-class | +1 | ||||||
AV/Kamoi (AO) | -6N | -6N | -8 -10N | -8 -10N? |
- The table shows an estimated accuracy and/or firepower fit bonus based on having one fit gun equipped.
- The variable N refers to the number of guns of that category equipped
- E.g. 2 guns of 2N = 4 Acc
- Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together.
- The night fit bonus from the IJN 20.3cm series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates.
- As of 13th December 2018 the hidden firepower bonus of 14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai does not work/does not exist[citation needed].
Firepower bonuses for Heavy Cruisers (CA), Aviation Cruisers (CAV), as well as some other "Medium Guns capable ships" like Seaplane Tenders (AV), Kamoi (AO forms).
- Other ships like Submarine Tenders (AS) are unmapped yet.
Ships | 203mm/53 |
---|---|
Zara-class | +1 |
12.7cm HA Late Models
As of 2017/06/23, Yura Kai Ni, Mutsuki-classes, and Kamikaze-classes gain accuracy bonuses with some main Late Models High Angle 12.7cm guns .
Ship | 12.7cm Single HA Mount (LM) | 12.7cm Twin HA Mount (LM) |
---|---|---|
CL(T)/CT | +4N | +2 +2N |
Yura Kai Ni | +4 +10N | |
Mutsuki-class | +5 | |
Kamikaze-class | ?? |
Notes:
- Only Yura Kai Ni and Satsuki Kai Ni were tested. It is unknown whether the other ships listed also receive those bonuses, or whether it only works for specific remodels.
- The variable N refers to the number of guns of that category equipped (ex: 2 guns of 2N = 4).
- It is unknown whether the 12.7cm Single HA gives any bonus.
Sources: [7]
Destroyer (DD) Bonuses
Certain destroyers receive some Accuracy bonuses when equipped with certain guns or sonars.
- The bonus accuracy likely takes the form: [math]\displaystyle{ \text{ACCURACY}_\text{bonus} = \text{C} \times \sqrt{\text{N}} }[/math]
- N being the amount of equipment.
Known "C" values | ||
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Ships | Gear | C |
Tashkent/Verniy |
130mm B-13 Twin Gun Mount | 5 |
Fletcher-class |
5" Single Gun Mk.30 variants |
4[1] |
John C. Butler-class | 4[2] | |
J-class |
QF 4.7inch Gun Mk.XII Kai | 3 |
ASDICs |
3 [3] | |
Mutsuki-class | 12cm Single Gun Mount Kai 2 | 5 |
- ↑ 2x base 5" Gun on Fletcher-class gives ~10 accuracy. This is potentially a bug.
- ↑ Samuel B.Roberts does not seem to receive any bonus from base 5" Gun. This is possibly a bug (maybe related to the bug on Fletcher-class).
- ↑ There are not enough samples on more than one ASDICs
sonar so it is not clear how does the accuracy bonus scales. This bonus can stack with the accuracy bonus from QF 4.7inch Gun Mk.XII Kai.
See Also
Main data sources :
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tN3X92q9zaWC0IMHfgw-dSqWnuscgKJT7ZOf9M9_Hjk/edit#gid=0
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0YSCVlnul4Usb8MZ8oluCJAUXyvhU-7MJ4Plcuipds/edit#gid=0
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xm5VRj1FwgwlRISAyuwJgOJiBgOGOcGQJNcJ-pZHGFo/edit#gid=0
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