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==Attack Specification== | ==Attack Specification== | ||
− | The support fleet will appear between the [[Aerial Combat]] and the [[Battle | + | The support fleet will appear between the [[Aerial Combat]] and the [[Battle Opening]] phase during day battles. |
* The exception are night-day nodes where airstrike/ASW support arrives after [[LBAS]] but before [[Aerial Combat]]. | * The exception are night-day nodes where airstrike/ASW support arrives after [[LBAS]] but before [[Aerial Combat]]. | ||
− | *The | + | *The ships attack random target in the fleet order. |
− | **To maximize the [[ | + | **To maximize the [[Scratch Damage]] put the weakest ship first. |
===Damage=== | ===Damage=== | ||
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The support use slightly different formula than the counter part | The support use slightly different formula than the counter part | ||
*Only '''visible stats''' are taken into account. | *Only '''visible stats''' are taken into account. | ||
− | ** This means [[Hidden | + | ** This means [[Hidden Fit Bonuses]] and [[Improvement]] bonuses are ignored. |
− | ** | + | **[[Plane Proficiency]] are ignored |
*The damage cap for support is '''170''' for all cases. | *The damage cap for support is '''170''' for all cases. | ||
* This means that even if support shows up in night battle, it does not get advantage of the 360 damage cap. | * This means that even if support shows up in night battle, it does not get advantage of the 360 damage cap. | ||
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{{Details|Accuracy}} | {{Details|Accuracy}} | ||
*Only '''base stats''' are taken into account. | *Only '''base stats''' are taken into account. | ||
− | ** This means [[Hidden | + | ** This means [[Hidden Fit Bonuses]] and [[Improvement]] bonuses are ignored. |
− | **unlike damage Accuracy [[ | + | **unlike damage Accuracy [[Visible Fit Bonuses]] doesn't work. |
− | *The only modifier are the [[ | + | *The only modifier are the [[Morale and Fatigue|morale]] and the [[formation]]. |
− | '''As a consequence contrary to the rest of the battle here the accuracy need to be balance with the attack power. | + | '''As a consequence, contrary to the rest of the battle here the accuracy need to be balance with the attack power. |
===Fleet composition=== | ===Fleet composition=== | ||
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* 2DD, 3(F)BB(V), 1CV(B) | * 2DD, 3(F)BB(V), 1CV(B) | ||
** Note that using 3BBV will trigger Aerial Support. To avoid Aerial Support, use at least one (F)BB. | ** Note that using 3BBV will trigger Aerial Support. To avoid Aerial Support, use at least one (F)BB. | ||
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Ship should be chosen based on '''firepower'''{{firepower}}, '''level''' and '''luck'''{{Luck}}. | Ship should be chosen based on '''firepower'''{{firepower}}, '''level''' and '''luck'''{{Luck}}. | ||
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* 1 or more CV(B/L)/AV/LHA and no (F)BB(V)/CA/CAV, | * 1 or more CV(B/L)/AV/LHA and no (F)BB(V)/CA/CAV, | ||
* 2 or more BBV/CAV/AV/LHA/AO and no (F)BB/CA. | * 2 or more BBV/CAV/AV/LHA/AO and no (F)BB/CA. | ||
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;Recommended Composition | ;Recommended Composition | ||
* 2DD, 4CV(B/L) | * 2DD, 4CV(B/L) | ||
+ | Ship should only be chosen based on plane slots. | ||
|-|ASW Support= | |-|ASW Support= | ||
Meet '''all''' of the following requirements: | Meet '''all''' of the following requirements: | ||
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Ship should only be chosen based on plane slots. | Ship should only be chosen based on plane slots. | ||
</tabber> | </tabber> | ||
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;Notes | ;Notes | ||
<tabber> | <tabber> | ||
|-|Shelling Support= | |-|Shelling Support= | ||
− | + | The attack work similarly as the [[shelling]] phase. | |
+ | *This support cost huge amount of fuel{{Fuel}} and ammo{{Ammo}} | ||
|-|Airstrike Support= | |-|Airstrike Support= | ||
− | + | The attack will go through the normal [[Aerial Combat]] phases. | |
− | + | * This means that damage can be reduced by plane losses through the air control and anti-air fire phases. | |
− | + | * Planes in airstrike support appear to have some shoot-down resistance that helps them survive anti-air fire. | |
− | + | ** But the required fighter power for obtaining air control is reduced by planes lost in earlier air control phases. | |
− | * Airstrike support '''costs bauxite''' on top of the normal resupply costs because lost planes need to be resupplied. | + | * Airstrike support '''costs bauxite{{bauxite}}''' on top of the normal resupply costs because lost planes need to be resupplied. |
− | * Taking jets on airstrike support still costs steel but does not trigger a jet assault phase. | + | * Taking [[jets]] on airstrike support still costs steel{{steel}} but does not trigger a jet assault phase. |
* Ships that cannot launch bombers '''will not participate in airstrike support'''. | * Ships that cannot launch bombers '''will not participate in airstrike support'''. | ||
+ | ;Bug | ||
+ | *The {{Item/Icon|Provisional Resupply|size=50px}} Provisional Resupply will not resupply the lost plane. | ||
|-|ASW Support= | |-|ASW Support= | ||
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* It only takes into account '''plane ASW''', equipping sonars and depth charges will be a waste. | * It only takes into account '''plane ASW''', equipping sonars and depth charges will be a waste. | ||
** However the [[Damage_Calculations#Anti-Submarine_Warfare|armor penetration]] mechanic from [[Depth Charge]]s still works.{{cite}} | ** However the [[Damage_Calculations#Anti-Submarine_Warfare|armor penetration]] mechanic from [[Depth Charge]]s still works.{{cite}} | ||
+ | ;Bug | ||
+ | *The {{Item/Icon|Provisional Resupply|size=50px}} Provisional Resupply will not resupply the lost plane. | ||
</tabber> | </tabber> | ||
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|{{RedGunLight}}{{RedGunLight}}{{Radar}} | |{{RedGunLight}}{{RedGunLight}}{{Radar}} | ||
− | |When running a | + | |When running a gun on a destroyer, '''ensure that it is a gun with bonus fit firepower''' to maximize her damage potential. |
|- | |- | ||
|{{RedGunLight}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | |{{RedGunLight}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | |{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | ||
− | |This is for high firepower battleships (>140) like the [[:Category:Yamato_Class|''Yamato''-class]] who can hit the | + | |This is for high firepower battleships (>140) like the [[:Category:Yamato_Class|''Yamato''-class]] who can hit the attack cap in parallel with a single high-firepower gun. Stacking all the extra radars will increase the accuracy. |
|- | |- | ||
|{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}} | |{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}} | ||
− | |This setup should only be used if all guns have at least 4{{Hit}}. It allows high firepower without sacrificing accuracy. | + | |This setup should only be used if all guns have at least 4{{Hit}} gun. It allows high firepower without sacrificing accuracy. |
|- | |- | ||
|{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}} | |{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}} | ||
− | |This setup should only be used if all guns have at least | + | |This setup should only be used if all guns have at least 3{{Hit}} gun. It allows decent firepower without sacrificing accuracy. |
|- | |- | ||
|{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | |{{RedGunHeavy}}{{RedGunHeavy}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | ||
− | |Without high accuracy | + | |Without high accuracy guns use this balanced setup. |
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!colspan=3|Carriers | !colspan=3|Carriers | ||
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|{{AnyBomber}}{{AnyBomber}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | |{{AnyBomber}}{{AnyBomber}}{{Radar}}{{Radar}} | ||
− | |This is for carriers that have '''bellow 52 firepower'''{{Firepower}} . To compensate plane with high "shelling power" (base attack power given by a plane following the [[Damage_Calculations#Carrier_Shelling_Attacks|carrier shelling formula]] should be used | + | |This is for carriers that have '''bellow 52 firepower'''{{Firepower}} . To compensate plane with high "shelling power" (base attack power given by a plane following the [[Damage_Calculations#Carrier_Shelling_Attacks|carrier shelling formula]]) should be used. |
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|N/A | |N/A | ||
|There isn't any fixed setup for ASW support. Just put the aircraft with the highest base '''ASW'''{{ASW}}stat into the largest slots (see [[ASW Aircraft]]). Fighters can be included if facing some '''surface battles''' with enemy airpower. | |There isn't any fixed setup for ASW support. Just put the aircraft with the highest base '''ASW'''{{ASW}}stat into the largest slots (see [[ASW Aircraft]]). Fighters can be included if facing some '''surface battles''' with enemy airpower. | ||
− | * | + | *Don't take into account the '''ASW''' [[Visible Fit Bonuses]]. |
|} | |} | ||
</tabber> | </tabber> | ||
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==Long Range Torpedo Support== | ==Long Range Torpedo Support== | ||
− | + | It is the cheapest support but also by far the weakest. In addition there is a bug that massively reduced the accuracy of tis support. | |
;Trigger Requirements | ;Trigger Requirements | ||
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;Notes | ;Notes | ||
* Do not bother using this type of support, since it is by design inferior to the previously mentioned ones. | * Do not bother using this type of support, since it is by design inferior to the previously mentioned ones. | ||
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Revision as of 08:37, 26 August 2023
In certain maps, it is possible to call support expeditions to help the fleet during battles. These expeditions are deployed like normal resource expeditions and have a chance of appearing at certain nodes and at the boss.
Overview
Expedition List
Areas that have support expeditions available for use have support expeditions listed under the expedition tab for the corresponding area:
It behave differently than other expedition:
- Instead of the normal 3 morale reduction for normal expeditions, the cost for support expeditions vary.
- Node support: 1-5
- Boss support: 1-10
- The resource cost is rounded up instead of down.
南方海域 - Southern Waters
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Event Expeditions
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Steps
- Deploy a fleet in the expedition menu.
- Send another fleet in sortie
- The support expedition will came back automatically once the sortie end even if she didn't show up.
Support expeditions will always require resupplying regardless of if they have performed a support attack.
Node
- For more information on this topic, see Nodes.
- Nose support may appears on most battle nodes. But not on boss nodes.
- note that only aerial support can appear on submarine only node.
- note that Aerial support cannot apear during night battle.
- Boss support apears only on boss nodes.
Support type
There are 4 types of support which are determine by the fleet composition:
- Shelling support
- Aerial support
- Airstrike support
- ASW Support
- Torpedo support
Trigger Rate
The trigger rate differs between node support and boss support.
Trigger Rate Formula | |
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- Notes
- The flagship affects trigger rate disproportionately.
- Always place a sparkled ship as flagship.
- The maximum chance for node support to trigger is 91% and the lowest is 51%.
- It is recommended to sparkle all the ships for node support in order to get the maximum trigger chance.
- Boss support can reach 100% trigger chance with only the flagship sparkled.
- It is recommended to at least sparkle the four heavy hitters in order to maximize accuracy.
Attack Specification
The support fleet will appear between the Aerial Combat and the Battle Opening phase during day battles.
- The exception are night-day nodes where airstrike/ASW support arrives after LBAS but before Aerial Combat.
- The ships attack random target in the fleet order.
- To maximize the Scratch Damage put the weakest ship first.
Damage
- For more information on this topic, see Damage Calculations.
The support use slightly different formula than the counter part
- Only visible stats are taken into account.
- This means Hidden Fit Bonuses and Improvement bonuses are ignored.
- Plane Proficiency are ignored
- The damage cap for support is 170 for all cases.
- This means that even if support shows up in night battle, it does not get advantage of the 360 damage cap.
- The only modifier are the engagement and the formation.
- Misses are also displayed on ships that aren't targeted.
- AO use the surface shelling formula instead of the carrier attack formula for support even when equipped with torpedo bombers.
- Enemy ships sunk in earlier combat phases are still counted towards contesting air control for airstrike support.
Acuracy
- For more information on this topic, see Accuracy.
- Only base stats are taken into account.
- This means Hidden Fit Bonuses and Improvement bonuses are ignored.
- unlike damage Accuracy Visible Fit Bonuses doesn't work.
- The only modifier are the morale and the formation.
As a consequence, contrary to the rest of the battle here the accuracy need to be balance with the attack power.
Fleet composition
Meet all of the following requirements:
- 2 or more (F)BB(V) OR 4 CA(V),
- No more than 1 CV(B/L)/AV/LHA.
- Recommended Composition
- 2DD, 3(F)BB(V), 1CV(B)
- Note that using 3BBV will trigger Aerial Support. To avoid Aerial Support, use at least one (F)BB.
Meet one of the following requirements:
- At least 2 or more CV(B/L)/AV/LHA in the fleet,
- 1 or more CV(B/L)/AV/LHA and no (F)BB(V)/CA/CAV,
- 2 or more BBV/CAV/AV/LHA/AO and no (F)BB/CA.
- Recommended Composition
- 2DD, 4CV(B/L)
Meet all of the following requirements:
- At least 1CVL present.
- At least 1 additional CVL/AV/AO/LHA/CL/CT or 2DE
- Recommended Composition
- 2DD, 2CVL, 2CV(B)
- Notes
The attack work similarly as the shelling phase.
The attack will go through the normal Aerial Combat phases.
- This means that damage can be reduced by plane losses through the air control and anti-air fire phases.
- Planes in airstrike support appear to have some shoot-down resistance that helps them survive anti-air fire.
- But the required fighter power for obtaining air control is reduced by planes lost in earlier air control phases.
- Airstrike support costs bauxite on top of the normal resupply costs because lost planes need to be resupplied.
- Taking jets on airstrike support still costs steel but does not trigger a jet assault phase.
- Ships that cannot launch bombers will not participate in airstrike support.
- Bug
- All planes with an ASW stat will participate in support.
- Fighters, Carrier Recons, and Jets are exluded.
- They will not even contribute to determining air control, but they will not be shot down.
- Seaplane fighters and fighter bombers will participate.
- Although DDs and DEs are included in the fleet, they do not participate since it is a variant of airstrike support.
- It only takes into account plane ASW, equipping sonars and depth charges will be a waste.
- However the armor penetration mechanic from Depth Charges still works.[citation needed]
- Bug
Equipment Setups
Any eligible ship type not mentioned in this table is subpar not recommended for use in support. The order of the equipment is for illustrative purposes only. Can be placed in any order.
Equipment Setup | Notes | |
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Destroyers | ||
When running a gun on a destroyer, ensure that it is a gun with bonus fit firepower to maximize her damage potential. | ||
For all other destroyers that don't have a fit gun, this setup ensures that they have the maximum chance to land a hit. | ||
Battleships | ||
This is for high firepower battleships (>140) like the Yamato-class who can hit the attack cap in parallel with a single high-firepower gun. Stacking all the extra radars will increase the accuracy. | ||
This setup should only be used if all guns have at least 4 gun. It allows high firepower without sacrificing accuracy. | ||
This setup should only be used if all guns have at least 3 gun. It allows decent firepower without sacrificing accuracy. | ||
Without high accuracy guns use this balanced setup. | ||
Carriers | ||
Carriers that have above 52 firepower can hit the parallel attack cap with just two 10 plane. | ||
This is for carriers that have bellow 52 firepower . To compensate plane with high "shelling power" (base attack power given by a plane following the carrier shelling formula) should be used. |
Bombers should be placed in the largest slots.
Bombers should be placed in the largest slots.
Equipment Setup | Notes | |
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Destroyers/Coastal Defense Ships | ||
N/A | Because destroyer and coastal defense ships cannot participate in ASW support, it doesn't matter what equipment they have. | |
For Samuel B. Roberts Mk.II only. | ||
Carriers | ||
N/A | There isn't any fixed setup for ASW support. Just put the aircraft with the highest base ASWstat into the largest slots (see ASW Aircraft). Fighters can be included if facing some surface battles with enemy airpower.
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Long Range Torpedo Support
It is the cheapest support but also by far the weakest. In addition there is a bug that massively reduced the accuracy of tis support.
- Trigger Requirements
- Do not meet any of the requirements for shelling, airstrike, or ASW support.
- Notes
- Do not bother using this type of support, since it is by design inferior to the previously mentioned ones.
FAQ
Q: Why didn't my support show up?
A: Double check that you have:
- Sent the the support to the right area.
- Sparkled the sufficient number of ships.
- Have the correct composition for support to appear.
- You resupplied the fleet before sending them off.
If all those are checked, it was just bad luck.
Q: I used 4BBV, why didn't support show up?
A: Because that triggers airstrike support. If you had no seaplane bombers, that causes airstrike support to fail.
Q: Does support work in night battle nodes?
A: Yes, but only shelling support.
Q: Which support should I use?
A: Generally shelling. Airstrike and ASW support only have niche uses.
Q: Why isn't XX composition listed as recommended?
A: Because it is subpar and not worth your time. You're generally running support if there are tough things en-route that you need taken out. There's no point in cheaping out and increasing the randomness of the outcome.
Q: Can I use XX ship with more guns/dive bombers for shelling instead?
A: It is advisable not to use ships that require too many guns or dive bombers to take to the parallel or head-on cap. Support requires all the accuracy it can muster to be effective.
Q: Do I really have to sparkle everyone?
A: You should have at least 4 ships sparkled for node support and the flagship sparkled for boss support. It is still recommended to sparkle the 4 heavy hitters for boss support because sparkling helps accuracy.
Q: Why is my morale going down so fast?
A: Node support costs 1-5 morale and boss support costs 1-10.
Q: Can I try torpedo support?
A: No.
See Also
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