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* This recipe should be used first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession. | * This recipe should be used first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession. | ||
* If Musashi is constructed first, use the "Yamato only" recipe below for Yamato instead. | * If Musashi is constructed first, use the "Yamato only" recipe below for Yamato instead. | ||
− | * Using the adequate secretary with those | + | * Using the adequate secretary with those recipes can construct [[Bismarck]] or [[Warspite]]. |
** Note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of both Yamato and Musashi. | ** Note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of both Yamato and Musashi. | ||
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− | * Using the adequate secretary | + | * Using the adequate secretary with those recipes can construct [[Saratoga]] or [[Ark Royal]]. |
** Note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of Taihou. | ** Note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of Taihou. | ||
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Revision as of 06:52, 31 August 2024
- Disclaimers
- These recipes are not guaranteed to give the exact ship wanted in any reasonable number of crafting attempts.
- Percentages listed are sourced from the drop databases and may not be representative of the real craft rates.
- Some ships require special Secretary to be crafted (see here).
Destroyer / Light Cruiser / Heavy cruiser / Submarine
Notes | ||||
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30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | Mainly common destroyers and light cruisers. No rare destroyers. Small chance of Akigumo, Yayoi, & Yuubari. |
250 | 30 | 200 | 30 | Heavy cruisers, submarines, rare light Cruisers, and rare destroyers. Small chance to yield training cruiser Katori.
Includes chance of rare destroyers (Shimakaze, Yukikaze) and submarines (I-168, I-58, I-8). |
Battleship
Notes | ||||
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400 | 30 | 600 | 30 | BB (32.52 %), CA (59.84 %). |
Standard Carrier / Light Carrier
Notes | ||||
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300 | 30 | 400 | 300 | Most common recipe. 7.9 % chance for carriers. 32.3 % light carrier [2] Minimum amount needed to possibly create a CV/CVL according to KC Kai data. |
350 | 30 | 400 | 350 | 8.5 % < 500 entries |
300 | 30 | 600 | 400 | 14.3 % < 500 entries |
350 | 30 | 600 | 350 | 11.9 % carrier, 32.7 % light carrier [3] |
Large Ship Construction Recipes
Due to their nature and expansiveness, data on LSC recipes is relatively low and may not be fully accurate or up to date.
- Please note that all ships craftable via LSC often come back as Event rare drops.
Theorical Recipes
The following are optimized recipes using data from the Kancolle Kai version [4].
The general rule for using the recipes:
- The "minimum recipes" are the minimum resources needed to obtain the desired ship.
- Increasing the resource does increase the rate and is recommended to some extent.
- Unless stated otherwise having more construction docks empty increases the rate.
- That means LSC should not be done one after another because the "in construction" docks will decrease the rate.
Maruyu | |||||
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Note | |||||
1500 | 1500 | 2000 | 1000 | 1 | Recommended recipe |
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Yamato-class (& Bismarck / Warspite) | |||||
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Note | |||||
3360 | 5500 | 6750 | 1950 | 20 | Minimum recipe |
[Show resource steps] | |||||
3840 | 5700 | 7000 | 2700 | 100 | |
4170 | 5900 | ||||
4500 | 6100 | ||||
4840 | 6300 | ||||
5170 | 6500 | ||||
5500 | 6700 | ||||
5840 | 6900 | ||||
6170 | |||||
6500 | |||||
6840 | |||||
3360 | 6900 | 7000 | 1950 | 20 | Recommended recipe |
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Yamato only | |||||
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Note | |||||
3000 | 4340 | 4670 | 1690 | 1 | Minimum recipe |
[Show resource steps] | |||||
3500 | 4670 | 5000 | 2300 | X | |
4000 | 5000 | 5000 | 2800 | ||
4500 | 5340 | 5340 | |||
5000 | 5670 | 5670 | |||
5500 | 6000 | 6000 | |||
6000 | 6340 | 6340 | |||
6500 | 6670 | 6670 | |||
7000 | 7000 | 7000 | |||
3000 | 6000 | 6000 | 1690 | 1 | Recommended recipe |
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Taihou (& Saratoga / Ark Royal) | |||||
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Note | |||||
3670 | 1950 | 4250 | 5200 | 1 | Minimum recipe |
[Show resource steps] | |||||
4000 | 2340 | 4500 | 5400 | X | |
4340 | 2670 | 4750 | 5600 | ||
4670 | 3000 | 5000 | 5800 | ||
5000 | 3340 | 5250 | 6000 | ||
5340 | 3670 | 5500 | 6200 | ||
5670 | 4000 | 5750 | 6400 | ||
6000 | 4340 | 6000 | 6600 | ||
6340 | 4670 | 6250 | 6800 | ||
6670 | 5000 | 6500 | 7000 | ||
7000 | 5340 | 6750 | |||
5670 | 7000 | ||||
6000 | |||||
6340 | |||||
6670 | |||||
7000 | |||||
4000 | 1950 | 5000 | 6000 | 1 | Recommended recipe |
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Old Empiricla Recipes
This section is outdated and needs updating. Some recipes and percentages are missing and outdated. Potential misinformation. Those recipes are still viable. |
Using any of the above mentioned Helper is either required or discouraged, depending on the targeted craft.
- When crafting a ship requiring a helper, then said helper is mandatory,
- However, when crafting any other ship, using those helpers will decrease the crafting rate of the targeted ship.
Focused Ship | Crafting rate | Sample size | Helper? | Notes | |||||
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Any | Any | Any | Any | Any | Maruyu | 14.9 % with 1.5/1.5/2/1 6.2 % with 4/6/6/2 |
- | ❌ | Using fewer resources increases the rate |
1500 | 1500 | 2000 | 1000 | 1 | Nagato-class Mogami-class Agano-class |
3.2 % Nagato; 6.2 % Mutsu 2.1 % Mikuma; 3.0 % Suzuya; 3.2 % Kumano 3.2 % Agano; 2.1 % Noshiro; 1.7 % Yahagi |
25 000 | ❌ | |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 7000 | 20 | Taihou | 5.5 % | 7 062 | ❌ | |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 6000 | 20 | Taihou | 5.7 % | 4 721 | ❌ | |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 5200 | 20 | Taihou | 5.0 % | 15 165 | ❌ | |
3600 | 2000 | 5300 | 5200 | 20 | Taihou | 4.6 % | 717 | ❌ | Lacking data |
3600 | 2000 | 5300 | 5200 | 1 | Akitsu Maru | 7.0 % | 717 | ❌ | Lacking data |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 5500 | 20 | Taihou Akitsu Maru |
6.0 % Taihou 8.6 % Akitsu Maru |
909 | ❌ | Lacking data |
4000 | 6000 | 6000 | 3000 | 20 | Yamato-class Yamato focus |
2.7 % Yamato 2.9 % Musashi |
23 902 | ❌ | |
Bismarck | 2.4 % | 4 064 | ✔️ | Yamato-class possible | |||||
4000 | 7000 | 7000 | 2000 | 20 | Yamato-class Musashi focus |
2.7 % Yamato 5.8 % Musashi |
10 117 | ❌ | |
Bismarck | 1.1 % | 4 628 | ✔️ | Yamato-class possible | |||||
4000 | 7000 | 7000 | 2000 | 1 | I-401 Yamato |
4.1 % I-401 3.2 % Yamato |
4 547 | ❌ | |
6000 | 7000 | 7000 | 2000 | 20 | Yamato-class Musashi focus |
2.7 % Yamato 7.2 % Musashi |
9 975 | ❌ | |
4000 | 6000 | 7000 | 2000 | 20 | Yamato-class Bismarck focus |
1.9 % Yamato 3.5 % Musashi |
17 498 | ❌ | Should uses Bismarck's helpers |
6.9% Bismarck | 11 683 | ✔️ | |||||||
4000 | 6000 | 6000 | 2000 | 20 | Yamato-class | 2.4 % Yamato 2.6 % Musashi 1.3 % I-401 |
57 104 | ❌ | Most Reported |
Bismarck | 2.5 % | 19 000 | ✔️ | ||||||
4000 | 6000 | 6000 | 2000 | 1 | I-401 Yamato |
4.3 % I-401 2.5 % Yamato |
30 200 | ❌ | |
4000 | 5900 | 6000 | 2000 | 1 | I-401 | 4.3 % | 1 324 | ❌ | Lacking data |
4000 | 7000 | 7000 | 3000 | 1 | I-401 | 6.9 % | 306 | ❌ | Lacking data |
3000 | 4500 | 4500 | 2000 | 20 | Zara | 3.3 % | 3627 | ✔️ | |
3500 | 3500 | 6000 | 6000 | 20 | Kamoi | 1.5 % | 4796 | ❌ | |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 6000 7000 |
20 | Kamoi Saratoga |
2.8 % Kamoi 2.0 % Saratoga |
19 350 | ✔️ | |
7000 | 7000 | 7000 | 3000 | 20 | Warspite | 1.9% | 161 | ✔️ | Lacking data |
4000 | 2000 | 5000 | 5200 | 20 | Ark Royal | ? % | N/A | ✔️ | Lacking data |
?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | Kashima | ? % | N/A | ❌ | Lacking data |
?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | Hayasui | ? % | N/A | ❌ | Lacking data |
- Notes
- Regarding the use of 1/20/100 Devmats:
- The amount used affects the pool of craftable ships, with some ships only appearing with 20+ Devmats.
- Using 100 Devmats does give better rates for some heavier ships, but the gain is often too marginal to justify this cost increase.
- E.g.:
- I-401 chances are improved with 1 dev mat.
- Yamato appears with all dev mat inputs.
- Bismarck and Musashi do not appear with 1 dev mat.
- Aiming for Bismarck before Musashi can help save both resources and Devmats as Musashi can always appear from a Bismarck attempt, but not necessarily the other way around (if a German ship is not used).
- Sources
- Based on Poi-Statistics.
- Kancolle DB reports include all development materials and Secretary used. This is especially noticeable for BB recipes where the number of attempts with/without Z1/Z3 skew the results towards either Bismarck or Yamato-class significantly. However, since the data sets are still significantly less biased than wikiwiki reports, it gives a better idea of what to expect.
- See also