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===Large Ship Construction Recipe===
 
===Large Ship Construction Recipe===
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The following are optimized recipe using data from the vita version[https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=35255321&rand=476].
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General rule for using the recipe:
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* Minimum recipe is the minimum resource to have a chnace to obtain the desire ship.
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* Increasing the resource does increase the rate and is recommended.
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** Depending on the pool increasing some resource is more effective than other.
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** Like normal construction resource should be increases by step. The steps are present collasped in the recipes table.
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** Unless capped it is not recommended to increase the {{DM}} Devmats cost.
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* Unless stated otherwise haveing more dock free increase the rate.
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** That means LSC should not be done one after another because the "in construction" docks will decrease the rate.
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<table class="wikitable">
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6>Maruyu</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th>{{Fuel}}</th><th>{{Ammo}}</th><th>{{Steel}}</th><th>{{Bauxite}}</th><th>{{DM}}</th><th>Note</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>'''1500'''</td><td>'''1500'''</td><td>'''2000'''</td><td>'''1000'''</td><td>'''1'''</td><td>'''Recommended recipe'''</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6></th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6>
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;Note
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* Unlike other recipe the number of free docks should be minimum (ideally 1).
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</td>
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</tr>
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</table>
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<table class="wikitable">
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6>Musashi + Yamato</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th>{{Fuel}}</th><th>{{Ammo}}</th><th>{{Steel}}</th><th>{{Bauxite}}</th><th>{{DM}}</th><th>Note</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>3360</td><td>5500</td><td>6750</td><td>1950</td><td>20</td><td>Minimum recipe</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6><span class="mw-customtoggle-AA">[{{color|orange|Show resource steps}}]</span></td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>3840</td><td>5700</td><td>7000</td><td>2700</td><td>100</td>
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<td rowspan=10>
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* Increasing {{Ammo}} Ammo is more effective than {{Fuel}} Fuel
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* {{Bauxite}} Bauxite should not be increase above 2700<br>or else the recipe will fall on the carrier pool.
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</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4170</td><td>5900</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4500</td><td>6100</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4840</td><td>6300</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5170</td><td>6500</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5500</td><td>6700</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5840</td><td>6900</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6170</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6500</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6840</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>'''3360'''</td><td>'''6900'''</td><td>'''7000'''</td><td>'''1950'''</td><td>'''20'''</td><td>'''Recommended recipe'''</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6></th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6>
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;Note
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* This recipe should be use first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession.
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* If Musashi is constructed first, use the "Yamato only" recipe below for Yamato instead.
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* Using the adequat secretary this reciped can be used to construct [[Bismarck]] or [[Warspite]].
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** However note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of both Yamato and Musashi.
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</td>
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</tr>
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</table>
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<table class="wikitable">
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6>Yamato only</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th>{{Fuel}}</th><th>{{Ammo}}</th><th>{{Steel}}</th><th>{{Bauxite}}</th><th>{{DM}}</th><th>Note</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>3000</td><td>4340</td><td>4670</td><td>1690</td><td>1</td><td>Minimum recipe</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6><span class="mw-customtoggle-AA">[{{color|orange|Show resource steps}}]</span></td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>3500</td><td>4670</td><td>5000</td><td>2300</td><td>X</td>
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<td rowspan=8>
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* Increasing {{Ammo}} Ammo and {{Steel}} Steel is more effective than {{Fuel}} Fuel
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* {{Bauxite}} Bauxite should not be increase above 2800<br>or else the recipe will fall on the carrier pool.
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* {{DM}} DevMat should not be increased<br>or else the recipe will fall on the heavy pool.
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</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4000</td><td>5000</td><td>5000</td><td>2800</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4500</td><td>5340</td><td>5340</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5000</td><td>5670</td><td>5670</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5500</td><td>6000</td><td>6000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6000</td><td>6340</td><td>6340</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6500</td><td>6670</td><td>6670</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>7000</td><td>7000</td><td>7000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>'''3000'''</td><td>'''6000'''</td><td>'''6000'''</td><td>'''1690'''</td><td>'''1'''</td><td>'''Recommended recipe'''</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6></th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6>
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;Note
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* The above "Yamato+Musashi recipe" should be use first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession.
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</td>
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</tr>
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</table>
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<table class="wikitable">
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6>Taihou</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th>{{Fuel}}</th><th>{{Ammo}}</th><th>{{Steel}}</th><th>{{Bauxite}}</th><th>{{DM}}</th><th>Note</th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>3670</td><td>1950</td><td>4250</td><td>5200</td><td>1</td><td>Minimum recipe</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6><span class="mw-customtoggle-AA">[{{color|orange|Show resource steps}}]</span></td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4000</td><td>2340</td><td>4500</td><td>5400</td><td>X</td>
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<td rowspan=15>
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* Increasing {{Steel}} Steel and {{bauxite}} Bauxite<br>is more effective than {{Fuel}} Fuel and {{Ammo}} Ammo
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</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4340</td><td>2670</td><td>4750</td><td>5600</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>4670</td><td>3000</td><td>5000</td><td>5800</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5000</td><td>3340</td><td>5250</td><td>6000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5340</td><td>3670</td><td>5500</td><td>6200</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>5670</td><td>4000</td><td>5750</td><td>6400</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6000</td><td>4340</td><td>6000</td><td>6600</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6340</td><td>4670</td><td>6250</td><td>6800</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6670</td><td>5000</td><td>6500</td><td>7000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>7000</td><td>5340</td><td>6750</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td rowspan=5> </td><td>5670</td><td>7000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6340</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>6670</td>
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</tr>
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<tr id="mw-customcollapsible-AA" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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<td>7000</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td>'''4000'''</td><td>'''1950'''</td><td>'''5000'''</td><td>'''6000'''</td><td>'''1'''</td><td>'''Recommended recipe'''</td>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<th colspan=6></th>
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</tr>
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<tr>
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<td colspan=6>
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;Note
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* Using the adequat secretary this reciped can be used to construct [[Saratoga]] or [[Ark Royal]].
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** However note that it will '''greatly reduced''' the rate of Taihou.
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</td>
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</tr>
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</table>
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====Old Empiricla Recipes====
 
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;Sources
 
;Sources
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*Based on [https://db.kcwiki.cn/construction/ Poi-Statistics] and UnlockACGWebPro reports.
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*Based on [https://db.kcwiki.cn/construction/ Poi-Statistics].
 
*Kancolle DB reports include all development materials and Secretary used. This is especially noticeable for BB recipes where the number of attempts with/without Z1/Z3 skew the results towards either Bismarck or ''Yamato''-class significantly. However, since the data sets are still significantly less biased than wikiwiki reports, it gives a better idea of what to expect.
 
*Kancolle DB reports include all development materials and Secretary used. This is especially noticeable for BB recipes where the number of attempts with/without Z1/Z3 skew the results towards either Bismarck or ''Yamato''-class significantly. However, since the data sets are still significantly less biased than wikiwiki reports, it gives a better idea of what to expect.
  

Revision as of 22:56, 30 August 2024

Disclaimers
  • These recipes are not guaranteed to give the exact ship wanted in any reasonable number of crafting attempts.
  • Percentages listed are sourced from the drop databases and may not be representative of the real craft rates.
  • Some ships require special Secretary to be crafted (see here).

Destroyer / Light Cruiser / Heavy cruiser / Submarine

Fuel Ammunition Steel Bauxite Notes
30 30 30 30 Mainly common destroyers and light cruisers. No rare destroyers. Small chance of Akigumo, Yayoi, & Yuubari.
250 30 200 30 Heavy cruisers, submarines, rare light Cruisers, and rare destroyers. Small chance to yield training cruiser Katori.

Includes chance of rare destroyers (Shimakaze, Yukikaze) and submarines (I-168, I-58, I-8).
1.22 % Shimakaze, 1.71 % Yukikaze, 2.6 % for submarines. [1]
Z3 when using Z1 as Secretary.
Z1 when using Z3 as Secretary.

  • Recipe percentages do not count Z1 & Z3 yet.

Battleship

Fuel Ammunition Steel Bauxite Notes
400 30 600 30 BB (32.52 %), CA (59.84 %).

2.98 % Suzuya, 2.01 % Mutsu, 1.09 % Nagato.

Standard Carrier / Light Carrier

Fuel Ammunition Steel Bauxite Notes
300 30 400 300 Most common recipe. 7.9 % chance for carriers. 32.3 % light carrier [2]
Minimum amount needed to possibly create a CV/CVL according to KC Kai data.
350 30 400 350 8.5 % < 500 entries
300 30 600 400 14.3 % < 500 entries
350 30 600 350 11.9 % carrier, 32.7 % light carrier [3]

Large Ship Construction Recipe

The following are optimized recipe using data from the vita version[4].

General rule for using the recipe:

  • Minimum recipe is the minimum resource to have a chnace to obtain the desire ship.
  • Increasing the resource does increase the rate and is recommended.
    • Depending on the pool increasing some resource is more effective than other.
    • Like normal construction resource should be increases by step. The steps are present collasped in the recipes table.
    • Unless capped it is not recommended to increase the Development material Devmats cost.
  • Unless stated otherwise haveing more dock free increase the rate.
    • That means LSC should not be done one after another because the "in construction" docks will decrease the rate.
Maruyu
FuelAmmunitionSteelBauxiteDevelopment materialNote
15001500200010001Recommended recipe
Note
  • Unlike other recipe the number of free docks should be minimum (ideally 1).
Musashi + Yamato
FuelAmmunitionSteelBauxiteDevelopment materialNote
336055006750195020Minimum recipe
[Show resource steps]
3840570070002700100
  • Increasing Ammunition Ammo is more effective than Fuel Fuel
  • Bauxite Bauxite should not be increase above 2700
    or else the recipe will fall on the carrier pool.
41705900
45006100
48406300
51706500
55006700
58406900
6170
6500
6840
336069007000195020Recommended recipe
Note
  • This recipe should be use first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession.
  • If Musashi is constructed first, use the "Yamato only" recipe below for Yamato instead.
  • Using the adequat secretary this reciped can be used to construct Bismarck or Warspite.
    • However note that it will greatly reduced the rate of both Yamato and Musashi.
Yamato only
FuelAmmunitionSteelBauxiteDevelopment materialNote
30004340467016901Minimum recipe
[Show resource steps]
3500467050002300X
  • Increasing Ammunition Ammo and Steel Steel is more effective than Fuel Fuel
  • Bauxite Bauxite should not be increase above 2800
    or else the recipe will fall on the carrier pool.
  • Development material DevMat should not be increased
    or else the recipe will fall on the heavy pool.
4000500050002800
450053405340
500056705670
550060006000
600063406340
650066706670
700070007000
30006000600016901Recommended recipe
Note
  • The above "Yamato+Musashi recipe" should be use first if neither Yamato nor Musashi are in possession.
Taihou
FuelAmmunitionSteelBauxiteDevelopment materialNote
36701950425052001Minimum recipe
[Show resource steps]
4000234045005400X
  • Increasing Steel Steel and Bauxite Bauxite
    is more effective than Fuel Fuel and Ammunition Ammo
4340267047505600
4670300050005800
5000334052506000
5340367055006200
5670400057506400
6000434060006600
6340467062506800
6670500065007000
700053406750
56707000
6000
6340
6670
7000
40001950500060001Recommended recipe
Note
  • Using the adequat secretary this reciped can be used to construct Saratoga or Ark Royal.
    • However note that it will greatly reduced the rate of Taihou.


Old Empiricla Recipes

Imbox outdated.png This section is outdated and needs updating.
Some recipes and percentages are missing and outdated. Potential misinformation.
Those recipes are still viable.

Using any of the above mentioned Helper is either required or discouraged, depending on the targeted craft.

  • When crafting a ship requiring a helper, then said helper is mandatory,
  • However, when crafting any other ship, using those helpers will decrease the crafting rate of the targeted ship.
Fuel Ammunition Steel Bauxite Development material Focused Ship Crafting rate Sample size Helper? Notes
Any Any Any Any Any Maruyu 14.9 % with 1.5/1.5/2/1
6.2 % with 4/6/6/2		 - ❌ Using fewer resources increases the rate
1500 1500 2000 1000 1 Nagato-class
Mogami-class
Agano-class 		3.2 % Nagato; 6.2 % Mutsu
2.1 % Mikuma; 3.0 % Suzuya; 3.2 % Kumano
3.2 % Agano; 2.1 % Noshiro; 1.7 % Yahagi		 25 000 ❌
4000 2000 5000 7000 20 Taihou 5.5 % 7 062 ❌
4000 2000 5000 6000 20 Taihou 5.7 % 4 721 ❌
4000 2000 5000 5200 20 Taihou 5.0 % 15 165 ❌
3600 2000 5300 5200 20 Taihou 4.6 % 717 ❌ Lacking data
3600 2000 5300 5200 1 Akitsu Maru 7.0 % 717 ❌ Lacking data
4000 2000 5000 5500 20 Taihou
Akitsu Maru 		6.0 % Taihou
8.6 % Akitsu Maru		 909 ❌ Lacking data
4000 6000 6000 3000 20 Yamato-class
Yamato focus 		2.7 % Yamato
2.9 % Musashi		 23 902 ❌
Bismarck 2.4 % 4 064 ✔️ Yamato-class possible
4000 7000 7000 2000 20 Yamato-class
Musashi focus 		2.7 % Yamato
5.8 % Musashi		 10 117 ❌
Bismarck 1.1 % 4 628 ✔️ Yamato-class possible
4000 7000 7000 2000 1 I-401
Yamato 		4.1 % I-401
3.2 % Yamato		 4 547 ❌
6000 7000 7000 2000 20 Yamato-class
Musashi focus 		2.7 % Yamato
7.2 % Musashi		 9 975 ❌
4000 6000 7000 2000 20 Yamato-class
Bismarck focus 		1.9 % Yamato
3.5 % Musashi		 17 498 ❌ Should uses Bismarck's helpers
6.9% Bismarck 11 683 ✔️
4000 6000 6000 2000 20 Yamato-class 2.4 % Yamato
2.6 % Musashi
1.3 % I-401		 57 104 ❌ Most Reported
Bismarck 2.5 % 19 000 ✔️
4000 6000 6000 2000 1 I-401
Yamato 		4.3 % I-401
2.5 % Yamato		 30 200 ❌
4000 5900 6000 2000 1 I-401 4.3 % 1 324 ❌ Lacking data
4000 7000 7000 3000 1 I-401 6.9 % 306 ❌ Lacking data
3000 4500 4500 2000 20 Zara 3.3 % 3627 ✔️
3500 3500 6000 6000 20 Kamoi 1.5 % 4796 ❌
4000 2000 5000 6000
7000		 20 Kamoi
Saratoga 		2.8 % Kamoi
2.0 % Saratoga		 19 350 ✔️
7000 7000 7000 3000 20 Warspite 1.9% 161 ✔️ Lacking data
4000 2000 5000 5200 20 Ark Royal ? % N/A ✔️ Lacking data
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? Kashima ? % N/A ❌ Lacking data
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? Hayasui ? % N/A ❌ Lacking data
Notes
  • Regarding the use of 1/20/100 Development material Devmats:
    • The amount used affects the pool of craftable ships, with some ships only appearing with 20+ Devmats.
    • Using 100 Devmats does give better rates for some heavier ships, but the gain is often too marginal to justify this cost increase.
    • E.g.:
      • I-401 chances are improved with 1 dev mat.
      • Yamato appears with all dev mat inputs.
      • Bismarck and Musashi do not appear with 1 dev mat.
      • Aiming for Bismarck before Musashi can help save both resources and Devmats as Musashi can always appear from a Bismarck attempt, but not necessarily the other way around (if a German ship is not used).
Sources
  • Based on Poi-Statistics.
  • Kancolle DB reports include all development materials and Secretary used. This is especially noticeable for BB recipes where the number of attempts with/without Z1/Z3 skew the results towards either Bismarck or Yamato-class significantly. However, since the data sets are still significantly less biased than wikiwiki reports, it gives a better idea of what to expect.
See also
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