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==Sorties==
 
==Sorties==
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Dropping Maruyuu is usually the best way to farm her, as it is cheaper than doing LSC crafts.
  
 
===3-5===
 
===3-5===
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[[3-5]] is the best place to farm Maruyuu, being cheaper and faster. The main downside is the moral drain resulting in ending the sortie on an "off-route node".
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;Recomanded Fleet:
 
;Recomanded Fleet:
 
*'''1 (F)BB(V), 3 CVL, 2 CAV/AV'''
 
*'''1 (F)BB(V), 3 CVL, 2 CAV/AV'''
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|B|red|D|red|H|red|J|green}}
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|B|red|D|red|H|red|J|green}}
 
*Drop rate: 2.5 %
 
*Drop rate: 2.5 %
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*Node {{MapRoute|H|red}} flagship is a soft-skin [[installation]], requiring geras such as {{AA Shell}} [[AA Shell]]s and {{Landing Craft}}{{Amphibious Tank}} [[Landing Equipment]].
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*It is recommended to bring a {{Class|Nelson}} to utilize her [[touch]].
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*The CAV/AV should be preferably {{Ship/Link|Mogami Kai Ni Toku|Mikuma Kai Ni Toku|link_class=Mogami|text=''Mogami''-class Kai Ni Toku}}.
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*As the final node is a resource node, it is possible to continue the sortie even when being taiha on {{MapRoute|H|red}}.
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*The uses of {{Amphibious Tank}} {{Equipment/Link|Special Type 4 Amphibious Tank|Special Type 4 Amphibious Tank Kai|text=Ka-Tsu tanks|link=Ka-Tsu}} is recommended in order to boost the {{ammo}} ammo gain on the final node, raising the base 50 gain to 130 when using 2 kat-su+ka-tsu kai pairs (+1~10 gain when improved).
  
 
===4-5===
 
===4-5===
 
;Recomanded Fleet:
 
;Recomanded Fleet:
*'''1-2(F)BB(V), 2-3CV(B), 2CA(V)''' (Fast+)
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*'''1-2 (F)BB(V), 2-3 CV(B), 2 CAV/AV (Fast+)
 
*Route = Random:
 
*Route = Random:
 
*:{{MapRoute|A|blue|D|red|H|red|T|red}}
 
*:{{MapRoute|A|blue|D|red|H|red|T|red}}
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*Drop rate: 2.0 %
 
*Drop rate: 2.0 %
  
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*All ships should be of the [[Speed Group]]s Fast/Slow A, in order to become Fast+ with only a single {{Engine}} {{Equipment/Link|New Model High Temperature High Pressure Boiler|text=+13 Boiler}} at 7+ {{Star}}.
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*The CAV/AV should be preferably {{Ship/Link|Mogami Kai Ni Toku|Mikuma Kai Ni Toku|link_class=Mogami|text=''Mogami''-class Kai Ni Toku}}.
  
 
===6-2===
 
===6-2===
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*Route = {{MapRoute|C|red|E|blue|J|red|K|red}}
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|C|red|E|blue|J|red|K|red}}
 
*Drop rate: 2.0 %
 
*Drop rate: 2.0 %
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*It is advised to bring a {{Class|Nelson}} to utilize her [[touch]].
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*The CAV/AV should be preferably {{Ship/Link|Mogami Kai Ni Toku|Mikuma Kai Ni Toku|link_class=Mogami|text=''Mogami''-class Kai Ni Toku}}.
  
 
=Mizuho & Kamoi=
 
=Mizuho & Kamoi=
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===7-2===
 
===7-2===
 
;Recommended Fleet
 
;Recommended Fleet
'''1FBB, 1CV, 1CVL, 1CAV, 2DD''' (fast)
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*'''1 FBB, 1 CV, 1 CVL, 1 CAV, 2 DD (Fast)
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|B|red|C|red|D|blue|I|red|M|red}}
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|B|red|C|red|D|blue|I|red|M|red}}
 
*Drop rate: 2.2 %
 
*Drop rate: 2.2 %
 
  
 
===7-4===
 
===7-4===
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[[7-4]] is a good place to both farm Kamoi and [[#DE|DE]].
  
 
;Recommended Fleet
 
;Recommended Fleet
*0-1BBV, 1CVL, 1CA/CL, 3-4DD/DE
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*'''1 BBV, 1 CVL, 1 CL, 3 DD
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|A|blue|B|red|E|pink|J|red|L|red|P|red}}
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|A|blue|B|red|E|pink|J|red|L|red|P|red}}
 
*LBAS Node {{MapRoute|P|red}}: Range = 2
 
*LBAS Node {{MapRoute|P|red}}: Range = 2
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[[DE]] are the best way to modernize the HP of any ship in the game, as well as the only way to modernize ASW and a good way to modernize Luck.
 
[[DE]] are the best way to modernize the HP of any ship in the game, as well as the only way to modernize ASW and a good way to modernize Luck.
 
*{{details|Modernization#Coastal Defense Ships|l1=DE modding}}
 
*{{details|Modernization#Coastal Defense Ships|l1=DE modding}}
 
===DE Drop Behaviors===
 
DE drops is a complicated mechanic. To farm for them efficiently, you need to know how their drop mechanic really works. For full details of how it works, you can check out these articles [https://note.com/shiroos/n/nc69eeb09585f], [https://note.com/shiroos/n/nf94178915b6c]. But here is the TLDR version:
 
*If you own '''3 copies''' of a DE and start farming for her 4th copy onwards, her drop rate will be decreased (This is known as '''possession penalty'''). So try to '''keep 2 copies''' of each DE at best.
 
*For every time that DE is '''scrapped, sunk or fed away using modernization''', the game will add '''+1''' to your '''cumulative decommission''' counter for that DE. If this counter '''reaches 10 or more''', the rate of that DE drop will also be decreased (This is known as '''cumulative penalty'''). Keep this in mind if you fed away too many of that DE.
 
**This '''cumulative penalty''' applies to your account in '''every sea area, including event''' (As seen in map 2-3 [https://x.com/shiroos/status/1772303252454854707] and Spring event 2024 E2 Boss [https://x.com/Sashimi91640578/status/1807745269595025450])
 
**This counter is '''invisible and will keep going up if you remove that same DE from your base''', making it really hard to get more copies of her after a certain amount of her copies removed, '''unless there is a hard reset of drop pool'''. So far, only one time dev has done this, which was in the November 2 2023 update [https://x.com/shiroos/status/1738122210588647929]. When this reset happens, your '''cumulative penalty''' will also be reset back to 0, allowing you to farm for her again easily. However, it's unknown when dev will reset the drop pool again.
 
**The '''cumulative penalty''' starts taking real effect and reduce the DE drop rate also depends on which sea area you are farming. For spring event 2024 E2 Boss, the effect starts kicking in when the '''cumulative decommission''' counter is '''14 or higher''' [https://x.com/shiroos/status/1772304298669457604], for map 1-3, it kicks in when the counter is '''10 or higher''' [https://x.com/shiroos/status/1728817901686452653]. There is no fixed amount for this counter as it can change, so the safest bet is still try to keep the counter at '''9 or less''' to avoid the penalty.
 
**Lastly, when '''cumulative penalty''' kicks in, it '''doesn't reduce that DE drop rate to 0%''', it's just really low rate, so it's still possible to farm for her, just very unlikely.
 
  
 
==Sorties==
 
==Sorties==
 
DE can only be obtained via drops, and only [[Limited Drop|limited time drops]] so far, thus, there is almost no reliable way to farm them.
 
DE can only be obtained via drops, and only [[Limited Drop|limited time drops]] so far, thus, there is almost no reliable way to farm them.
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===DE Drop Behaviors===
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Unlike any other ship type in the game, DE are subject to unique drop cap behavior, similar to overfishing.
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To farm for them efficiently, knowing how their drop mechanic works is important.
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*Having more than 3 duplicate of a certain DE will decrease its rate on all maps.
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*Using 10+ times a certain DE as fodder will start introducing the chance of decreasing its rate on all maps.
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*{{details|Drop#Overfishing Cap|l1=Overfishing Cap}}
  
 
===7-4===
 
===7-4===
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;Recommended Fleet
 
;Recommended Fleet
*0-1BBV, 1CVL, 1CA/CL, 3-4DD/DE
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*'''1 BBV, 1 CVL, 1 CL, 3 DD
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|A|blue|B|red|E|pink|J|red|L|red|P|red}}
 
*Route = {{MapRoute|A|blue|B|red|E|pink|J|red|L|red|P|red}}
 
*LBAS Node {{MapRoute|P|red}}: Range = 2
 
*LBAS Node {{MapRoute|P|red}}: Range = 2

Latest revision as of 10:50, 23 December 2024

This article aims to provide advice on the better ways to farm for certain ships in order to use them as Modernization fodder. Those ships notably include:

Maruyu

Maruyu Kai is the best way to modernize reliably the luck of any ship in the game.

LSC

Maruyu is a reliable LSC craft, being obtained by using the minimum amount of resources.

  • She gets even better crafting rates by crafting her with as few "free docks" as possible.
  • It is advised to attempt such craft only when reaching the resource caps, to avoid wasting any resource gain.
Maruyu
FuelAmmunitionSteelBauxiteDevelopment materialNote
15001500200010001Recommended recipe
Notes
  • Unlike other recipes, the number of free docks should be minimum (ideally 1).

Sorties

Dropping Maruyuu is usually the best way to farm her, as it is cheaper than doing LSC crafts.

3-5

3-5 is the best place to farm Maruyuu, being cheaper and faster. The main downside is the moral drain resulting in ending the sortie on an "off-route node".

Recomanded Fleet
  • 1 (F)BB(V), 3 CVL, 2 CAV/AV
  • Route = B D H J
  • Drop rate: 2.5 %
  • Node H flagship is a soft-skin installation, requiring geras such as Anti-Aircraft Shell AA Shells and Landing CraftAmphibious Vehicle Landing Equipment.
  • It is recommended to bring a Nelson-class to utilize her touch.
  • The CAV/AV should be preferably Mogami-class Kai Ni TokuMogami Kai Ni Toku
    Mikuma Kai Ni Toku
    .
  • As the final node is a resource node, it is possible to continue the sortie even when being taiha on H.
  • The uses of Amphibious Vehicle Ka-Tsu tanksSpecial Type 4 Amphibious Tank
    Special Type 4 Amphibious Tank Kai
    is recommended in order to boost the Ammunition ammo gain on the final node, raising the base 50 gain to 130 when using 2 kat-su+ka-tsu kai pairs (+1~10 gain when improved).

4-5

Recomanded Fleet
  • 1-2 (F)BB(V), 2-3 CV(B), 2 CAV/AV (Fast+)
  • Route = Random:
    A D H T
    C D H T
  • Drop rate: 2.0 %

6-2

Recomanded Fleet
  • 1 (F)BB(V), 2 CAV/AV, 2 DD
  • Route = C E J K
  • Drop rate: 2.0 %

Mizuho & Kamoi

Mizuho & Kamoi can be used to modernize the HP of certain ships.

LSC

Both Mizuho and Kamoi can be crafted via LSC only, but this method is not advised.

Sorties

Mizuho is a permanent drop on 7-2, 5-3, and 6-4 only, with only the fist being reasonably farmable.

Kamoi is a permanent drop on 7-4 only.

Both are also regular limited time drops.

7-2

Recommended Fleet
  • 1 FBB, 1 CV, 1 CVL, 1 CAV, 2 DD (Fast)
  • Route = B C D I M
  • Drop rate: 2.2 %

7-4

7-4 is a good place to both farm Kamoi and DE.

Recommended Fleet
  • 1 BBV, 1 CVL, 1 CL, 3 DD
  • Route = A B E J L P
  • LBAS Node P: Range = 2
  • Drop rate: 5.7 %

DE

DE are the best way to modernize the HP of any ship in the game, as well as the only way to modernize ASW and a good way to modernize Luck.

Sorties

DE can only be obtained via drops, and only limited time drops so far, thus, there is almost no reliable way to farm them.

DE Drop Behaviors

Unlike any other ship type in the game, DE are subject to unique drop cap behavior, similar to overfishing. To farm for them efficiently, knowing how their drop mechanic works is important.

  • Having more than 3 duplicate of a certain DE will decrease its rate on all maps.
  • Using 10+ times a certain DE as fodder will start introducing the chance of decreasing its rate on all maps.

7-4

So far, only 7-4 has a constant set of DE drops, being a reliable farm location.

Recommended Fleet
  • 1 BBV, 1 CVL, 1 CL, 3 DD
  • Route = A B E J L P
  • LBAS Node P: Range = 2

Misc

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See Also