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==Heavy Cruisers ([[CA]]/[[CAV]])== | ==Heavy Cruisers ([[CA]]/[[CAV]])== | ||
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+ | {|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width=1200px | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|Ship Class | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=14cm Twin Kai}} | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cmK}} | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|Bofors 15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Model 1930|text=Bofors 15.2cm}} | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=15.5cmK}} | ||
+ | !colspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(2)}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(3)}} | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53}} | ||
+ | !rowspan="2"|{{Equipment/Link|8inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.9|text=8inch Mk.9}}<br> {{Equipment/Link|8inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.9 mod.2|text=8inch Mk.9 m.2}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | !colspan="1"|Day | ||
+ | !colspan="1"|Night | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''CA(V)''' | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--14cmTwin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.2Twin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--Borfors15.2--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.5cm(K) --> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#CFE2F3" rowspan="4"|<!--20.3cm(2/3)Day --> 0 | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#81C784" rowspan="4"|<!--20.3cm(2/3)Night--> {{Nowrap|'''+5 +5N?'''}}{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--203mm/53 --> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#CFE2F3" rowspan="4"|<!-- 8″Mk.9(m2)--> 0 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |{{Ship/Link|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=''Mogami''-class|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--14cmTwin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.2Twin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--Borfors15.2--> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"|<!--15.5cm(K) --> +2{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--203mm/53 --> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |{{Ship/Link|Mogami/Kai Ni|Suzuya/Kai Ni|Kumano/Kai Ni|text=''Mogami''-class Kai Ni|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--14cmTwin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.2Twin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--Borfors15.2--> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#A5D6A7"|<!--15.5cm(K) --> +5{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--203mm/53 --> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |{{Ship/Link|Zara|Pola|text=''Zara''-class|link_class=Zara}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--14cmTwin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.2Twin(K)--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--Borfors15.2--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.5cm(K) --> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#C8E6C9"|<!--203mm/53 --> +1{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |'''Seaplane Tenders (AV)''' | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"|<!--14cmTwin(K)--> -6N{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"|<!--15.2Twin(K)--> -6N{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--Borfors15.2--> | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--15.5cm(K) --> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"|<!--20.3cm(2/3)--> -8 -10N{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |style="color: ;background-color:# "|<!--203mm/53 --> | ||
+ | |style="color:black;background-color:#E57373"|<!-- 8″Mk.9(m2)--> -8 -10N?{{Hit}} | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark mean that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.''' | ||
+ | * The table shows an estimated accuracy and/or firepower fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | ||
+ | **The variable '''N''' refers to the number of guns of that category equipped. (Ex: 2 guns of 2N = 4 ACC) | ||
+ | * Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together. | ||
+ | * The night fit bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates. | ||
+ | * There is a possibility that certain fit categories only work during the day. The possibility is plausible, but there's no concrete data proving. The alternative theory is that the night bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. | ||
+ | * The information in this table is sourced from these two spreadsheets ([https://twitter.com/yukicacoon/status/1301508712780111872 1]) ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-nekeN0IBLtzdxxIzV0Gm3T7U4BpCrYA1lGsQYAEJo 2]) the latter maintained by Dewy, both with the relevant sources linked in the spreadsheet. | ||
+ | *As of 13th December 2018 the hidden firepower bonus of {{Equipment/Link|14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai}} does not work/does not exist{{cite}}. | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | <references/> | ||
+ | {{Clear}} |
Revision as of 14:30, 19 August 2022
Large Caliber Main Guns
Battleships receive accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight[1]. How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun, and whether the battle takes place during day or night.
Ship Class | (P)35.6cm(DC), 38cm(K), 30.5cm(K), 38.1cm (/N) |
38cmQ, 38cmQK |
381mm, 381mmK |
41cm | 16inch (United States Navy) | 16inch (Royal Navy) | 46cm | P51cm, 51cm |
51cm Triple | |||||||||||||||||
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41cm, Proto, Kai |
3K2 | 2K2 | Mk.7 | Mk.7 +GFCS |
Mk.6 mod.2 |
Mk.I | +AFCT | Kai +FCR |
Proto | 46cm | Kai | |||||||||||||||
Gangut | +7 30.5cm: +10 |
0 | +1 | -7 | -3 | -9~10? | ?? | ?? | -7 | -18 | ?? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Kongou-class |
+7 | 0 | -2 | -5 | -5? | -5 | -6~7? | -5 | -6 | -3 | -7 | -10 | -10? | |||||||||||||
Bismarck Vittorio Veneto-class |
+4 | 0? | +1 | -5 | -5 | -4? | -5 | ?? | ?? | -7 | -10 | ?? | ||||||||||||||
Iowa | +4? | 0? | -2? | -5 | 0 | +2 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||||||||||
South Dakota | -5 M: +4.6 |
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Richelieu | +4 | +4~5 | -2 | -5 | -5 | -7 | -14? | -8 | -7 | -10 | ?? | |||||||||||||||
Warspite | +6 38.1cm: +8 |
+1~2 | +2 | -2? | +5 | ?? | +3~4 | -8 | -11 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||
Nelson | 0 | 0 | +3? | 0 | 0 | |||||||||||||||||||||
Ise-class Kai/Fusou-class Kai/Ni |
+4 | 0 | +2 | +2 | 0 | 0? | -3 | -7 F+: -11? |
-4? | |||||||||||||||||
Ise-class Kai Ni |
+4? | 0? | +4? | +4? | +6 | +2 | ?? | -7 F+: -11? |
?? | |||||||||||||||||
Ise/Fusou-classes Base |
+2 | 0? | +2 | +2 | +2 | +2? | +3 | -3 | -7 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||
Nagato-class |
0 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nagato-class Kai Ni |
+2? | 0? | +2? | +5 | +5 | +5~6 | 0 | +4 | -2? | -4? | -6? | Nagato: -5 Mutsu: -8 |
?? | |||||||||||||
Yamato-class |
0 | +3 | +3 | +7 | 0 | ?? | ||||||||||||||||||||
Yamato Kai Ni[2] (FBB) | 0 | ?? | -7 | ?? | ?? | -10 | ||||||||||||||||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either mean that it is not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by Yumeji.
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Last Updated: Aug 24th 2020 | Made by: Tsubakura |
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]
Where:
- [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] is the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
- [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] is the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
- [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] is the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
- [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] is the number of equipped guns for that gun class.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tN3X92q9zaWC0IMHfgw-dSqWnuscgKJT7ZOf9M9_Hjk/edit#gid=0
Cruiser Gun Fit
Light Cruisers (CL/CLT)[1]
Ship | Guns group[2] | Accuracy bonus/penalty | ||
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1st Gun | 2nd Gun | Unmarried | Married | |
Default to very CL(T) |
- | - | 0 | 0 |
A/B | A/B | 0 | 2 | |
C | C | -5 | -1 | |
D | D | -6 | -3.6 | |
E | E | |||
F | F | |||
F | - | -3 | -1.8 | |
G | G | -22 | -17.6 | |
Agano-class | B | - | 5 | 7 |
B | B | 6 | 8 | |
F | F | -8 | -6 | |
Ooyodo | C | C | -2 | -1.2 |
F | F | -10 | -8 | |
Atlanta-class | E | E | 0 | 3 |
Abyssals | Any | Any | 0 | - |
Medium Guns | -3 x N | - |
- There is not enough data to pin down the exact fit accuracy formula.
- Other gun combinations fits cannot be extrapolated yet.
- There are known tests where the fit bonuses do not scale linearly with the number of guns.
- ↑ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M0YSCVlnul4Usb8MZ8oluCJAUXyvhU-7MJ4Plcuipds/edit#gid=0
- ↑ Changing gun order does not affect the final bonus
Heavy Cruisers (CA/CAV)
Ship Class | 14cm Twin 14cm Twin Kai |
15.2cm 15.2cmK |
Bofors 15.2cm | 15.5cm 15.5cmK |
20.3cm 20.3cm(2) 20.3cm(3) |
203mm/53 | 8inch Mk.9 8inch Mk.9 m.2 | |
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Day | Night | |||||||
CA(V) | 0 | +5 +5N? | 0 | |||||
Mogami-class |
+2 | |||||||
Mogami-class Kai Ni |
+5 | |||||||
Zara-class |
+1 +1 | |||||||
Seaplane Tenders (AV) | -6N | -6N | -8 -10N | -8 -10N? |
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark mean that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.
- The table shows an estimated accuracy and/or firepower fit bonus based on having one fit gun equipped.
- The variable N refers to the number of guns of that category equipped. (Ex: 2 guns of 2N = 4 ACC)
- Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together.
- The night fit bonus from the 20.3cm series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates.
- There is a possibility that certain fit categories only work during the day. The possibility is plausible, but there's no concrete data proving. The alternative theory is that the night bonus from the 20.3cm series overrides any other categories.
- The information in this table is sourced from these two spreadsheets (1) (2) the latter maintained by Dewy, both with the relevant sources linked in the spreadsheet.
- As of 13th December 2018 the hidden firepower bonus of 14cm Twin Gun Mount Kai does not work/does not exist[citation needed].