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Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493648336142876674</ref> | Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493648336142876674</ref> | ||
How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night. | How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night. | ||
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'''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.''' | '''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.''' | ||
* The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | * The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | ||
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* Exceptions arises where different guns of the same class gives different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut. What would happen if you combine 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigations. | * Exceptions arises where different guns of the same class gives different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut. What would happen if you combine 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigations. | ||
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− | |style = colspan='15'|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: | + | |style = colspan='15'|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: April 29th 2018</span> |
|style = colspan='10'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span> | |style = colspan='10'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span> | ||
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Revision as of 19:45, 29 April 2018
This article is Overweight Penalty/Fit Gun Bonus The article is already being adopted and currently under renovation. |
Missing Information: Fit Gun table for BB, updated information and sources, quantified effects |
Page Adopted By: Tsubakura Please contact this person before making any major (non-grammar, typo correction, redesigning etc.) edits on this article. |
See also: Fit gun bonus - Reddit intermediate players' guide
Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty
With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.
As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.
Fit mechanics do not apply to the abyssal fleet.[1]
Battleships
Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.[2] How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night.
Ship Class | 30.5cm |
35.6cm |
38cm四 |
381mm |
41cm |
16inch |
P46cm | 46cm | 46cmK | P51cm 51cm | ||||||||||||||
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Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | |||||
Kongou Class |
+7 | 0 | -2 | 0 | -5 | -5 | -7 | -8 | -9 | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Bismarck Class | +4 | ?? | +3 | 0 | -5 | -2? | -2? | -10 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Гангут ClassГангут | +7 | +4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -7 | -7 | -10 | -16 | ? | N/A | |||||||||||||
Richelieu Class | +4 | +5 | -2 | 0 | -5 | -7 | -7 | -10 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Vittorio Veneto Class |
+4 | ?? | +2 | 0 | -7 | -5 | -10 | -10 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Iowa Class | +4 | ?? | -2 | 0 | -5 | +4 | -7 | -10 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Queen Elizabeth Class | +4 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -10 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Ise Class (Base) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Fusou Class (Base) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | ? | N/A | ||||||||||||||
Ise Class (Kai) |
+4 | -2 | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -7 | -8 | -5 | N/A | ||||||||||||
Fusou Class (Kai/Kai Ni) |
+4 | -2 | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -7 | -8 | -5 | N/A | ||||||||||||
Nagato Class (Base/Kai) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | ? | 0 | ||||||||||||||
Nagato Class (Kai Ni) | ?? | ?? | ?? | 0 | +5 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -5 | 0 | ||||||||||||||
Yamato Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.
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Last Updated: April 29th 2018 | Made by: Tsubakura |
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]
Where:
- [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] is the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
- [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] is the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
- [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] is the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
- [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] is the number of equipped guns for that gun class.
Cruisers
Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. Unlike battleships however, cruisers do not suffer from any overweight penalty nor do overweight guns for cruisers exists.
Ship Class | 12.7cm Twin (LM) | 14cm Single |
14cm Twin |
15.5cm |
20.3cm |
203mm/53 | ||||||
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Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | |
Ooyodo Class | +7? | +?? +1 | +5 +2 | +7 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
Agano Class |
+7? | +?? +1 | +8 +2 | ?? | 0 | 0 | ||||||
All other CL(T) | +7 | +4 +1 | +3 +2 | ?? | 0 | 0 | ||||||
Mogami Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | +2 | 0 | +10* | 0 | |||||
Mogami Class (K2) |
0 | 0 | 0 | +5 | 0 | |||||||
Zara Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | +1 +1 | |||||||
All other CA(V) | 0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | 0 | |||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark means that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.
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Last Updated: February 15th 2018 | Made by: Tsubakura |
Single Mount High-Angle Bonus
As of June 23, Yura and Mutsuki/Kamikaze-class destroyers gain fit bonuses from having single mount equipped.
Ship | 12.7cm Single HA Mount (Late Model) | |
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Satsuki K2 | +5 | |
Other Mutsuki-Class | ?? | |
Kamikaze-Class | ?? | |
Yura K2 | +10 | |
Unknown factors:
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Last Updated: November 7th 2017 | Made by: Tsubakura |