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Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. Unlike battleships however, cruisers do not suffer from any overweight penalty nor do overweight guns for cruisers exists. | Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. Unlike battleships however, cruisers do not suffer from any overweight penalty nor do overweight guns for cruisers exists. | ||
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!rowspan="2"|'''Ship Class''' | !rowspan="2"|'''Ship Class''' | ||
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|12.7cm Twin High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12.7cm (LM)|icon=x}} | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|12.7cm Twin High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)|text=12.7cm (LM)|icon=x}} | ||
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single|icon=x}}<br /> | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|14cm Single Gun Mount|text=14cm Single|icon=x}}<br /> | ||
{{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Single Gun Mount|text=15.2cm|icon=x}} | {{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Single Gun Mount|text=15.2cm|icon=x}} | ||
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin|icon=x}}<br /> | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|14cm Twin Gun Mount|text=14cm Twin|icon=x}}<br /> | ||
{{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm|icon=x}}<br /> | {{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount|text=15.2cm|icon=x}}<br /> | ||
{{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cmK|icon=x}} | {{EquipmentLink|15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=15.2cmK|icon=x}} | ||
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm|icon=x}}<br /> | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount|text=15.5cm|icon=x}}<br /> | ||
{{EquipmentLink|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=15.5cmK|icon=x}} | {{EquipmentLink|15.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai|text=15.5cmK|icon=x}} | ||
− | + | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm|icon=x}}<br /> | |
− | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|20.3cm Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm|icon=x}} | + | {{EquipmentLink|20.3cm (No.2) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(2)|icon=x}}<br /> |
− | + | {{EquipmentLink|20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount|text=20.3cm(3)|icon=x}} | |
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53|icon=x}} | !colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount|text=203mm/53|icon=x}} | ||
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|{{ShipLink|Ooyodo|text=Ooyodo Class|link_class=Ooyodo}} | |{{ShipLink|Ooyodo|text=Ooyodo Class|link_class=Ooyodo}} | ||
|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +??{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +??{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +5{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +5{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | ||
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|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7{{Hit}} | |style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7{{Hit}} | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|{{ShipLink|Agano|Noshiro|Yahagi|Sakawa|text=Agano Class|link_class=Agano}} | |{{ShipLink|Agano|Noshiro|Yahagi|Sakawa|text=Agano Class|link_class=Agano}} | ||
|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +??{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +??{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | ||
− | + | |style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +8{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | |
− | |style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +8 | ||
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|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|'''All other CL(T)''' | |'''All other CL(T)''' | ||
|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +3{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +3{{Hit}} +2{{Firepower}} | ||
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|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|{{ShipLink|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class|link_class=Mogami}} | |{{ShipLink|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +2{{Hit}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +2{{Hit}} | ||
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|rowspan="4"|0 | |rowspan="4"|0 | ||
|style="background-color:#81C784" rowspan="4"|{{Nowrap|'''+10'''*}}{{Hit}} | |style="background-color:#81C784" rowspan="4"|{{Nowrap|'''+10'''*}}{{Hit}} | ||
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|{{ShipLink|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class (K2)|link_class=Mogami}} | |{{ShipLink|Mogami|Mikuma|Suzuya|Kumano|text=Mogami Class (K2)|link_class=Mogami}} | ||
|colspan="2"|0 | |colspan="2"|0 | ||
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +5{{Hit}} | |style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +5{{Hit}} | ||
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|{{ShipLink|Zara|Pola|text=Zara Class|link_class=Zara}} | |{{ShipLink|Zara|Pola|text=Zara Class|link_class=Zara}} | ||
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|colspan="2"|?? | |colspan="2"|?? | ||
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|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="2"| +1{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | |style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="2"| +1{{Hit}} +1{{Firepower}} | ||
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|'''All other CA(V)''' | |'''All other CA(V)''' | ||
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'''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark means that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.''' | '''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark means that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.''' | ||
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* The table shows an estimated accuracy and/or firepower fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | * The table shows an estimated accuracy and/or firepower fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped. | ||
* Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together. | * Bonuses from guns of different classes are simply added together. | ||
− | * | + | * If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of number of guns (Ooyodo with two 15.5cm guns equipped for example, that's √2 x 7 = 9.89). Note that this also applies to firepower bonuses! |
− | * The night bonus | + | * The night fit bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series used to be capped at +15%. However, it is unknown whether this cap has been removed or not from the recent updates. |
− | * | + | * There is a possibility that certain fit categories only work during the day. The possibility is plausible, but there's no concrete data proving. The alternative theory is that the night bonus from the '''20.3cm''' series overrides any other categories. |
− | + | * The fit mechanics for CL(T)/CT is currently broken, preventing them from gaining any fit bonuses. This bug has not been fixed yet as of February 15th 2018. | |
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− | |style = colspan=' | + | |style = colspan='9'|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: February 15th 2018</span> |
|style = colspan='7'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span> | |style = colspan='7'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span> | ||
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Revision as of 21:16, 15 February 2018
This article is Overweight Penalty/Fit Gun Bonus The article is already being adopted and currently under renovation. |
Missing Information: Fit Gun table for BB, updated information and sources, quantified effects |
Page Adopted By: Tsubakura Please contact this person before making any major (non-grammar, typo correction, redesigning etc.) edits on this article. |
See also: Fit gun bonus - Reddit intermediate players' guide
Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty
With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.
As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.
Fit mechanics do not apply to the abyssal fleet.[1]
Battleships
Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.[2] How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night.
Note: The gun classification is only there as a reference for editors and does not reflect the terminologies used in-game.
Gun Class | Class A | Class F | Class B | Class C | Class Y | Class D | Class E | Class Z | |||||||||||
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Ship Class | 30.5cm |
35.6cm |
38cm四 |
381mm |
41cm |
16inch |
P46cm | 46cm | P51cm | ||||||||||
Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | ||
Kongou Class |
+7 | 0 | -2 | 0 | -5 | -5 | -7 | -8 | N/A | ||||||||||
Bismarck Class | +4 | ?? | +3 | 0 | -5 | -2? | -2? | -10 | N/A | ||||||||||
Гангут ClassГангут | +7 | +4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -7 | -7 | -10 | -16 | N/A | |||||||||
Richelieu Class | +4 | +5 | -2 | 0 | -5 | -7 | -7 | -10 | N/A | ||||||||||
Vittorio Veneto Class |
+4 | ?? | +1 | 0 | -7 | -5 | -7 | -10 | N/A | ||||||||||
Iowa Class | +4 | ?? | -2 | 0 | -5 | +4 | -7 | -10 | N/A | ||||||||||
Queen Elizabeth Class | +4 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -10 | N/A | ||||||||||
Ise Class (Base) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | N/A | ||||||||||
Fusou Class (Base) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | N/A | ||||||||||
Ise Class (Kai) |
+4 | -2 | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -7 | -8 | N/A | ||||||||
Fusou Class (Kai/Kai Ni) |
+4 | -2 | +2 | 0 | +2 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -7 | -8 | N/A | ||||||||
Nagato Class (Base/Kai) |
+2 | ?? | +2 | 0 | +2 | +2 | -3 | -7 | 0 | ||||||||||
Nagato Class (Kai Ni) | ?? | ?? | ?? | 0 | +5 | 0 | -3 | -5 | 0 | ||||||||||
Yamato Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |||||||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.
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Last Updated: November 7th 2017 | Made by: Tsubakura |
More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:
[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]
Where:
- [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] is the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
- [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] is the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
- [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] is the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
- [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] is the number of equipped guns for that gun class.
Cruisers
Cruisers can receive accuracy and/or firepower bonuses from using fit guns in their load-out. Unlike battleships however, cruisers do not suffer from any overweight penalty nor do overweight guns for cruisers exists.
Ship Class | 12.7cm (LM) | 14cm Single |
14cm Twin |
15.5cm |
20.3cm |
203mm/53 | ||||||
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Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | Day | Night | |
Ooyodo Class | ?? | +?? +1 | +5 +2 | +7 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
Agano Class |
?? | +?? +1 | +8 +2 | ?? | 0 | 0 | ||||||
All other CL(T) | ?? | +4 +1 | +3 +2 | ?? | 0 | 0 | ||||||
Mogami Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | +2 | 0 | +10* | 0 | |||||
Mogami Class (K2) |
0 | 0 | 0 | +5 | 0 | |||||||
Zara Class |
0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | +1 +1 | |||||||
All other CA(V) | 0 | 0 | 0 | ?? | 0 | |||||||
Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark means that it is potentially outdated and might no longer be correct.
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Last Updated: February 15th 2018 | Made by: Tsubakura |
Single Mount High-Angle Bonus
As of June 23, Yura and Mutsuki/Kamikaze-class destroyers gain fit bonuses from having single mount equipped.
Ship | 12.7cm Single HA Mount (Late Model) | |
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Satsuki K2 | +5 | |
Other Mutsuki-Class | ?? | |
Kamikaze-Class | ?? | |
Yura K2 | +10 | |
Unknown factors:
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Last Updated: November 7th 2017 | Made by: Tsubakura |