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!'''Gun Class'''
 
!'''Gun Class'''
!colspan="2"|Class G
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!colspan="4"|Class A
!colspan="2"|Class A
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!colspan="2"|Class B
 
!colspan="2"|Class B
 
!colspan="2"|Class C
 
!colspan="2"|Class C
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{{EquipmentLink|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount|text=38.1cm}}<br />
 
{{EquipmentLink|38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount|text=38.1cm}}<br />
 
{{EquipmentLink|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=38.1cm/N}}
 
{{EquipmentLink|38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai|text=38.1cm/N}}
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount|text=38cm四}}<br />
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{{EquipmentLink|38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai|text=38cmK四?}}
  
 
!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount|text=381mm}}<br />
 
!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount|text=381mm}}<br />
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!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount|text=P51cm}}
 
!colspan="2"|{{EquipmentLink|Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount|text=P51cm}}
 
|-
 
|-
 +
!colspan="1"|Day
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!colspan="1"|Night
 
!colspan="1"|Day
 
!colspan="1"|Day
 
!colspan="1"|Night
 
!colspan="1"|Night
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|{{ShipLink|Kongou|Hiei|Kirishima|Haruna|text=Kongou Class|link_class=Kongou}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Kongou|Hiei|Kirishima|Haruna|text=Kongou Class|link_class=Kongou}}
|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7?
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|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="4"| +7
  
|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7
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|style="background-color:#FFCDD2" colspan="2"| -2
  
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -3?
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -3?
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|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7
 
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7
  
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7?
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|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -10
  
 
|style="background-color:#888888" colspan="2"|N/A
 
|style="background-color:#888888" colspan="2"|N/A
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Bismarck|text=Bismarck Class|link_class=Bismarck}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Bismarck|text=Bismarck Class|link_class=Bismarck}}
|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
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|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7
 
|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan="2"| +7
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
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|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7
 
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7
  
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -18?
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|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -18
  
 
|style="background-color:#888888" colspan="2"|N/A
 
|style="background-color:#888888" colspan="2"|N/A
 
|-
 
|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Richelieu|text=Richelieu Class|link_class=Richelieu}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Richelieu|text=Richelieu Class|link_class=Richelieu}}
|colspan="2"|??
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
 
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
 
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
  
|??
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|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -3
|??
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|???
  
 
|style="background-color:#EF9A9A" colspan="2"| -5
 
|style="background-color:#EF9A9A" colspan="2"| -5
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|style="background-color:#EF9A9A" colspan="2"| -5
 
|style="background-color:#EF9A9A" colspan="2"| -5
  
|colspan="2"|??
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|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -7
  
 
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -12
 
|style="background-color:#E57373" colspan="2"| -12
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|-
 
|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Littorio|Roma|text=Vittorio Veneto Class|link_class=Vittorio Veneto}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Littorio|Roma|text=Vittorio Veneto Class|link_class=Vittorio Veneto}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
 
|style="background-color:#afffb4"| +1
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|-
 
|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Iowa|text=Iowa Class|link_class=Iowa}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Iowa|text=Iowa Class|link_class=Iowa}}
|style="background-color:#81C784" colspan=2;| +7?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2
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|-
 
|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Warspite|text=Queen Elizabeth Class|link=Warspite}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Warspite|text=Queen Elizabeth Class|link=Warspite}}
|colspan="2"|?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Ise|Hyuuga|text=Ise Class (Base)|link_class=Ise}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Ise|Hyuuga|text=Ise Class (Base)|link_class=Ise}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="4"| +2
  
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="2"| +2
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Fusou|Yamashiro|text=Fusou Class (Base)|link_class=Fusou}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Fusou|Yamashiro|text=Fusou Class (Base)|link_class=Fusou}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="4"| +2
  
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="2"| +2
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Ise|Hyuuga|text=Ise Class (Kai)|link_class=Ise}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Ise|Hyuuga|text=Ise Class (Kai)|link_class=Ise}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|-
 
|{{ShipLink|Fusou/Kai|Fusou/Kai Ni|Yamashiro/Kai|Yamashiro/Kai Ni|text=Fusou Class (Kai/Kai Ni)|link_class=Fusou}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Fusou/Kai|Fusou/Kai Ni|Yamashiro/Kai|Yamashiro/Kai Ni|text=Fusou Class (Kai/Kai Ni)|link_class=Fusou}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="4"| +4
  
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|{{ShipLink|Nagato|Mutsu|text=Nagato Class (Base/Kai)|link_class=Nagato}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Nagato|Mutsu|text=Nagato Class (Base/Kai)|link_class=Nagato}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="4"| +2
  
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9" colspan="2"| +2
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
 
|style="background-color:#C8E6C9"| +2
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|{{ShipLink|Nagato Kai Ni|text=Nagato Class (Kai Ni)|link_class=Nagato}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Nagato Kai Ni|text=Nagato Class (Kai Ni)|link_class=Nagato}}
|style="background-color:#A5D6A7" colspan="2"| +4?
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|style="background-color:#FFCDD2" colspan="4"| -2?
  
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2" colspan="2"| -2?
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|colspan="2"|??
  
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2?
 
|style="background-color:#FFCDD2"| -2?
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|{{ShipLink|Yamato|Musashi|text=Yamato Class|link_class=Yamato}}
 
|{{ShipLink|Yamato|Musashi|text=Yamato Class|link_class=Yamato}}
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|colspan="2"|0
 
|colspan="2"|0
 
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'''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.'''<br /><br />
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'''Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.'''
The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped.<br />
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* The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having '''one fit gun''' equipped.
For married ships, the overweight penalty is reduced by 40% (A married Kongou with a 46cm receives a penalty of -6 instead of -10, for example).
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* For married ships, the overweight penalty is reduced by 40% (A married Kongou with a 46cm receives a penalty of -6 instead of -10, for example).
<br />
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* If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of number of guns. (A Kongou-class with two A class guns equipped for example, that's √2 x 7 = 9.89)
If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of number of guns. (A Kongou-class with two A class guns equipped for example, that's √2 x 7 = 9.89949493659)
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* If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together. (A Kongou with a 35.6cm and 41cm mixed for example, that's 7 - 5 = 2.
<br />
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* Exceptions arises where different guns of the same class gives different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut. What would happen if you combine 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigations.
If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together. (A Kongou with a 35.6cm and 41cm mixed for example, that's 7 - 5 = 2.
 
 
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|style = colspan='15'|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: September 27th 2017</span>
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|style = colspan='15'|<span style="text-align: left;">Last Updated: October 9th 2017</span>
 
|style = colspan='10'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span>
 
|style = colspan='10'|<span style="text-align: right;">Made by: [[User:Tsubakura|Tsubakura]]</span>
 
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Revision as of 22:21, 9 October 2017

This article is Overweight Penalty/Fit Gun Bonus
The article is already being adopted and currently under renovation.
Missing Information: Fit Gun table for BB, updated information and sources, quantified effects
Page Adopted By: Tsubakura
Please contact this person before making any major (non-grammar, typo correction, redesigning etc.) edits on this article.


See also: Fit gun bonus - Reddit intermediate players' guide

Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty

With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.

As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.

Fit mechanics does not apply to the abyssal fleet.[1]

Battleships

Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.[2] How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class, the caliber and type of the gun and whether the battle takes place during day or night.

Note: The gun classification is only there as a reference for editors and does not reflect the terminologies used in-game.

Gun Class Class A Class F Class B Class C Class Y Class D Class E Class Z
Ship Class 30.5cm30.5cm Triple Gun Mount

30.5cmK30.5cm Triple Gun Mount Kai

35.6cm35.6cm Twin Gun Mount

P35.6cmPrototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount
Dazzle35.6cm Twin Gun Mount (Dazzle Camouflage)
38cmK38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai
38.1cm38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount
38.1cm/N38.1cm Mk.I/N Twin Gun Mount Kai

38cm四38cm Quadruple Gun Mount

38cmK四?38cm Quadruple Gun Mount Kai

381mm381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount

381mmK381mm/50 Triple Gun Mount Kai

41cm41cm Twin Gun Mount

P41cmPrototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount
41cmK41cm Triple Gun Mount Kai

16inch16inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.7

GFCS16inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.7 + GFCS

P46cmPrototype 46cm Twin Gun Mount 46cm46cm Triple Gun Mount P51cmPrototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount
Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night Day Night
Kongou ClassKongou
Hiei
Kirishima
Haruna
+7 -2 -3? 0 -5 -5 -7 -10 N/A
Bismarck ClassBismarck +4 ?? +1 0 -5 -3? -3? -10 N/A
Гангут ClassГангут +10 +7 ?? +1 0 -7 -3 -7 -18 N/A
Richelieu ClassRichelieu +4 +4 -3 ??? -5 -5 -7 -12 N/A
Vittorio Veneto ClassLittorio
Roma
+4 ?? +1 0 -7 -5 -7 -10 N/A
Iowa ClassIowa +4 ?? -2 0 -5 +4 -7 -10 N/A
Queen Elizabeth ClassWarspite +4 ?? +2 0 +2 0 -3 -10 N/A
Ise Class (Base)Ise
Hyuuga
+2 ?? +2 0 +2 +2 -3 -7 N/A
Fusou Class (Base)Fusou
Yamashiro
+2 ?? +2 0 +2 +2 -3 -7 N/A
Ise Class (Kai)Ise
Hyuuga
+4 ?? +2 0 +2 0 -3 -5 -7 -8 N/A
Fusou Class (Kai/Kai Ni)Fusou Kai
Fusou Kai Ni
Yamashiro Kai
Yamashiro Kai Ni
+4 ?? +2 0 +2 0 -3 -5 -7 -8 N/A
Nagato Class (Base/Kai)Nagato
Mutsu
+2 ?? +2 0 +2 +2 -3 -7 0
Nagato Class (Kai Ni)Nagato Kai Ni -2? ?? -2? 0 +4 0 -3 -5 0
Yamato ClassYamato
Musashi
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Note: Fit gun mechanics are still being investigated to this day, hence the values are not final and may be subject to changes. Values with a question mark either means that its not conclusive yet or the conclusion drawn here is not the same as the one drawn by yumeji.

  • The table shows an estimated accuracy fit bonus based on having one fit gun equipped.
  • For married ships, the overweight penalty is reduced by 40% (A married Kongou with a 46cm receives a penalty of -6 instead of -10, for example).
  • If more than one gun of the same class is used, multiply the modifier by the square root of number of guns. (A Kongou-class with two A class guns equipped for example, that's √2 x 7 = 9.89)
  • If guns from different classes are used together, add the modifiers together. (A Kongou with a 35.6cm and 41cm mixed for example, that's 7 - 5 = 2.
  • Exceptions arises where different guns of the same class gives different bonuses on certain ships, notably Gangut. What would happen if you combine 30.5cm and 35.6cm is still under investigations.
Last Updated: October 9th 2017 Made by: Tsubakura

More generally, the accuracy offset can be defined with the formula:

[math]\displaystyle{ W = \sum^{\text{All Classes}} \left ( C_{k} M_{k} \sqrt{N_{k}} \right ) \% }[/math]

Where:

  • [math]\displaystyle{ W }[/math] is the resulting fit bonus or overweight penalty
  • [math]\displaystyle{ C_{k} }[/math] is the main coefficient of the equipped gun class. Refer to the above table for the coefficients applied to each Battleship for their respective guns.
  • [math]\displaystyle{ M_{k} }[/math] is the marriage coefficient for the particular gun class. Assumes a value of 0.6 if the ship is married, and if the main coefficient is negative.
  • [math]\displaystyle{ N_{k} }[/math] is the number of equipped guns for that gun class.

Heavy Cruisers

Heavy/Aviation cruisers only require one fit gun to get their fit bonus, there are no overweight mechanics regarding cruisers. Keep in mind that the fit bonus only applies during a night battle and equipping more than one of the same fit gun will not give you any duplicate bonuses. The fit bonuses also apply to torpedo attacks, as there are no distinction between shelling or torpedo based night attacks.
The following guns will give you a fit bonus:

Note: It is currently unknown what would happen if you combine different fit guns.

The following guns are confirmed not to give any fit bonuses:

Light Cruisers

Light Cruisers, Torpedo Cruisers and Training Cruisers all enjoy an accuracy and firepower bonus when equipped with fit guns. Like Heavy Cruisers, Light Cruisers do not have overweight mechanics.[3]

Firepower

Light Cruisers, Training Cruisers, and Torpedo Cruisers enjoy firepower increase when using any of the following gun:[4]

It have been suggested that the increase in firepower might follow this relationship:[4]

  • Increase in Firepower = √(No. of Fit Single Gun Mount) + 2 × √(No. of Fit Twin Gun Mount)

Accuracy

So far, only limited amount of tests have been conducted to study light cruiser fit gun's effect on accuracy so all information in this section are in-comprehensive and they might be superseded by other, more up-to-date investigations when those information are available.

The accuracy fit bonus only applies if 2 or more fit guns are equipped at the same time. Equipping more than 2 fit guns does not increase the fit bonus.[5] Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CL[4]

Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CLT[6]

Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CT[7]

Other combinations have not been fully tested yet.

The possibility of accuracy bonus vary across different ship classes have not been ruled out yet.[6]

Third party Inspection on BB Fit Gun

Third part Inspection on CA(V) Fit Gun

Third party Inspection on CL Fit Gun

References