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==Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty==
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With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.
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As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.
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Fit mechanics does not apply to the abyssal fleet.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/380246238991364096</ref>
  
 
==Battleships==
 
==Battleships==
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[https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493653997522137088 According to official twitter,] there won't be a "very big change" in accuracy (positive or negative) due to this system.
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Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493648336142876674</ref>
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How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class and the caliber of the gun.
  
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Putting suitable weight guns on Battleships would increase shelling accuracy in both Day Battle and Night Battle.
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{| class="wikitable typography-xl-optout" style="text-align:center;"
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!colspan="1"|Ship Class
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!colspan="1"|[[File:35.6cm Twin Gun Mount 007 Card.png|40px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/35.6cm_Twin_Gun_Mount]]
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[[File:Prototype 35.6cm Triple Gun Mount 103 Card.png|40px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Prototype_35.6cm_Triple_Gun_Mount]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:38cm Twin Gun Mount Kai 114 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/38cm_Twin_Gun_Mount_Kai]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount 190 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/38.1cm_Mk.I_Twin_Gun_Mount]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:381mm 50 Triple Gun Mount Kai 137 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/381mm/50_Triple_Gun_Mount_Kai]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:41cm Twin Gun Mount 008 Card.png|40px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/41cm_Twin_Gun_Mount]]
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[[File:Prototype 41cm Triple Gun Mount 105 Card.png|40px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Prototype_41cm_Triple_Gun_Mount]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:Prototype 46cm Twin Gun Mount 117 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Prototype_46cm_Twin_Gun_Mount]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:46cm Triple Gun Mount 009 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/46cm_Triple_Gun_Mount]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:16inch Triple Gun Mount Mk.7 161 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/16inch_Triple_Gun_Mount_Mk.7]]
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!scope="col" style="width: 150px;"|[[File:Prototype 51cm Twin Gun Mount 128 Card.png|50px|link=http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Prototype_51cm_Twin_Gun_Mount]]
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Kongou}}
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#c90404|L✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Bismarck}}
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|?✔
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|N
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#c90404|L✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Littorio}}
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#c90404|L✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Iowa}}
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|?✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|?✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|?✔
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|N
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|?✘
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|bgcolor=#c90404|?✘
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|N
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Warspite}}
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#00c30d|L✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|??
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|bgcolor=#c90404|L✘
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|N
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Ise/Kai}}
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|?✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|N
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Fusou/Kai}}
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|?✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|N
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Fusou/Kai Ni}}
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|?✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#62fb65|M✔
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|bgcolor=#f94a4a|M✘
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|N
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|bgcolor=#888888|N/A
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Nagato}}
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|?✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#afffb4|S✔
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|bgcolor=#ffc8c8|S✘
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|N
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|N
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|-
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|{{ShipBattleCardKai|Yamato}}
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|N
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|N
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|N?
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|N
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|N
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|N
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|N
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|N
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|N
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|-
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|style = colspan='10'|'''Note:''' The accuracy modifiers assumes 2 guns of the same type are equipped<br>
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L✔= +8 or more bonus<br>
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M✔= 3-8 bonus<br>
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S✔= 1-3 bonus<br>
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N= Neutral<br>
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S✘= 1-8 penalty<br>
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M✘= 8-12 penalty<br>
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L✘= 12+ penalty
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Cells currently marked with a question mark are not confirmed yet, because of the lack of samples.
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|}
  
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Putting too many heavy guns on Battleships would cause a drop in accuracy.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493648336142876674</ref>
 
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===Third party Inspection on BB Fit Gun===
 
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* [http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724 【艦これ】戦艦主砲の装備補正検証　その4　-フィット・過重量砲の概念は扇?　16inchMk.7など同種主砲2本積み9～11種類戦艦型別命中率分析-] (Japanese)
 
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* [http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/スレッド:450 戦艦主砲の装備補正命中率検証] (Japanese)
 
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* [https://goo.gl/gV7ypm Iowa改フィット@2本積み] (Japanese)
 
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* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HHpzOklOtf0l4UaKRQ5_5kKXoFfTK6qGFAXBvzJmemI/edit#gid=0 Warspite改フィット] (Japanese)
 
  
 
==Heavy Cruisers==
 
==Heavy Cruisers==
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CA(V) equipped with 20.3cm guns would get an increase in Night Battle accuracy.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/380238803090145280</ref> When asked about if this bonus applied to enemy fleets, the developers [https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/380246238991364096 responded that the bonus only applies to KanMusu].<br />
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CA(V) equipped with either the [[20.3cm Twin Gun Mount]] or the [[20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount]] will receive an accuracy bonus during night battle. CA(V)s has no overweight mechanics.
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Some data shows that not all 20.3cm guns enjoy the bonus to the same degree, several players are now investigating about it.<ref>[http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:935 重巡主砲夜戦補正検証]</ref>
 
  
 
==Light Cruisers==
 
==Light Cruisers==
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[https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/600208207454146561 According to official twitter,] using certain "Fit Guns" on Light Cruisers will improve their accuracy.
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Light Cruisers, Torpedo Cruisers and Training Cruisers all enjoy an accuracy and firepower bonus when equipped with fit guns.<ref>https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/600208207454146561</ref>
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It's also known that using those Fit Guns can increase their firepowers.
 
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Training Cruisers and Torpedo Cruisers also enjoy the relevant bonus.
 
 
===Firepower===
 
===Firepower===
 
Light Cruisers, Training Cruisers, and Torpedo Cruisers enjoy firepower increase when using any of the following gun:<ref name=CLFG>[http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%B7%A1%E6%B4%8B%E8%89%A6%E4%B8%BB%E7%A0%B2%E3%80%90%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E8%A3%9C%E6%AD%A3%E3%80%91 巡洋艦主砲【フィット補正】]</ref>
 
Light Cruisers, Training Cruisers, and Torpedo Cruisers enjoy firepower increase when using any of the following gun:<ref name=CLFG>[http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E5%B7%A1%E6%B4%8B%E8%89%A6%E4%B8%BB%E7%A0%B2%E3%80%90%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E8%A3%9C%E6%AD%A3%E3%80%91 巡洋艦主砲【フィット補正】]</ref>
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So far, only limited amount of tests have been conducted to study light cruiser fit gun's effect on accuracy so all information in this section are in-comprehensive and they might be superseded by other, more up-to-date investigations when those information are available.
 
So far, only limited amount of tests have been conducted to study light cruiser fit gun's effect on accuracy so all information in this section are in-comprehensive and they might be superseded by other, more up-to-date investigations when those information are available.
  
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The accuracy fit bonus only applies if 2 or more fit guns are equipped at the same time. Equipping more than 2 fit guns does not increase the fit bonus.<ref>https://twitter.com/buntan_oic/status/759254902287851524</ref>
 
Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CL<ref name=CLFG />
 
Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CL<ref name=CLFG />
 
*[[14cm Single Gun Mount]]
 
*[[14cm Single Gun Mount]]
 
*[[14cm Twin Gun Mount]]
 
*[[14cm Twin Gun Mount]]
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*[[15.2cm Single Gun Mount]]
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*[[15.2cm Twin Gun Mount]]
 
*[[15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai]]
 
*[[15.2cm Twin Gun Mount Kai]]
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Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CLT<ref name=CLFGA>[http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:939#2 軽巡フィット命中検証]</ref>
 
Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CLT<ref name=CLFGA>[http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:939#2 軽巡フィット命中検証]</ref>
 
*[[14cm Twin Gun Mount]]
 
*[[14cm Twin Gun Mount]]
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The possibility of accuracy bonus vary across different ship classes have not been ruled out yet.<ref name=CLFGA />
 
The possibility of accuracy bonus vary across different ship classes have not been ruled out yet.<ref name=CLFGA />
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==Third party Inspection on BB Fit Gun==
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* [http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724 【艦これ】戦艦主砲の装備補正検証　その4　-フィット・過重量砲の概念は扇?　16inchMk.7など同種主砲2本積み9～11種類戦艦型別命中率分析-] (Japanese)
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* [http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/スレッド:450 戦艦主砲の装備補正命中率検証] (Japanese)
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* [https://goo.gl/gV7ypm Iowa改フィット@2本積み] (Japanese)
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* [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HHpzOklOtf0l4UaKRQ5_5kKXoFfTK6qGFAXBvzJmemI/edit#gid=0 Warspite改フィット] (Japanese)
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==Third part Inspection on CL Fit Gun==
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* http://kancollexxxxx.blog.shinobi.jp/Entry/4/ (Japanese)
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* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vj_DAMxkZk2ZFZy8mYn6_YM_g1TDW4G7Ax4bBZa_yM8/edit#gid=0 (Japanese)
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* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17FrSqk0-yo2KnGux0YDLzeznUeYS8Wu5ojQ8bjsTbL8/edit#gid=449414457 (Japanese)
  
 
==References==
 
==References==

Revision as of 23:20, 4 October 2016

This article is Overweight Penalty/Fit Gun Bonus
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Missing Information: Fit Gun table for BB, updated information and sources, quantified effects
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Fit Bonus and Overweight Penalty

With the introduction of fit gun mechanics on July 28th 2014, ships now will receive fit bonus/penalties depending if the equipped gun fits for the class or if the gun is too heavy for the ship to use.

As fit bonuses are unaffected by morale or combined fleets, it becomes important that you utilize the fit bonuses as much as possible.

Fit mechanics does not apply to the abyssal fleet.[1]

Battleships

Battleships receives accuracy bonuses if the guns are fit and accuracy penalties if its overweight.[2] How much bonus/penalty a ship receives, depends on the battleship class and the caliber of the gun.

Ship Class 40px

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Ship Banner Kongou.png L✔ L✔ L✔ M✔ S✘ M✘ L✘ S✘ N/A
Ship Banner Bismarck.png M✔ M✔ ?✔ N M✘ M✘ L✘ S✘ N/A
Ship Banner Littorio.png M✔ M✔ S✔ S✔ M✘ M✘ L✘ S✘ N/A
Ship Banner Iowa.png ?✔ ?✔ ?✔ N M✘ ?✘ ?✘ N N/A
Ship Banner Warspite.png L✔ L✔ L✔ S✔ S✔ ?? L✘ N N/A
Ship Banner Ise Kai.png M✔ M✔ ?✔ M✔ N S✘ M✘ S✘ N/A
Ship Banner Fusou Kai.png M✔ M✔ ?✔ M✔ N S✘ M✘ S✘ N/A
Ship Banner Fusou Kai Ni.png M✔ M✔ ?✔ M✔ M✔ M✘ M✘ N N/A
Ship Banner Nagato.png S✔ S✔ ?✔ S✔ S✔ S✘ S✘ N N
Ship Banner Yamato.png N N N? N N N N N N
Note: The accuracy modifiers assumes 2 guns of the same type are equipped

L✔= +8 or more bonus
M✔= 3-8 bonus
S✔= 1-3 bonus
N= Neutral
S✘= 1-8 penalty
M✘= 8-12 penalty
L✘= 12+ penalty Cells currently marked with a question mark are not confirmed yet, because of the lack of samples.


Heavy Cruisers

CA(V) equipped with either the 20.3cm Twin Gun Mount or the 20.3cm (No.3) Twin Gun Mount will receive an accuracy bonus during night battle. CA(V)s has no overweight mechanics.

Light Cruisers

Light Cruisers, Torpedo Cruisers and Training Cruisers all enjoy an accuracy and firepower bonus when equipped with fit guns.[3]

Firepower

Light Cruisers, Training Cruisers, and Torpedo Cruisers enjoy firepower increase when using any of the following gun:[4]

It have been suggested that the increase in firepower might follow this relationship:[4]

  • Increase in Firepower = √(No. of Fit Single Gun Mount) + 2 × √(No. of Fit Twin Gun Mount)

Accuracy

So far, only limited amount of tests have been conducted to study light cruiser fit gun's effect on accuracy so all information in this section are in-comprehensive and they might be superseded by other, more up-to-date investigations when those information are available.

The accuracy fit bonus only applies if 2 or more fit guns are equipped at the same time. Equipping more than 2 fit guns does not increase the fit bonus.[5] Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CL[4]

Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CLT[6]

Accuracy increase have been observed for the following guns when they are being equipped on CT[7]

Other combinations have not been fully tested yet.

The possibility of accuracy bonus vary across different ship classes have not been ruled out yet.[6]

Third party Inspection on BB Fit Gun

Third part Inspection on CL Fit Gun

References

  1. ↑ https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/380246238991364096
  2. ↑ https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/493648336142876674
  3. ↑ https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/600208207454146561
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 巡洋艦主砲【フィット補正】
  5. ↑ https://twitter.com/buntan_oic/status/759254902287851524
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 軽巡フィット命中検証
  7. ↑ http://ja.kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89:939#6
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