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!colspan=2|General anti-installation setups
 
!colspan=2|General anti-installation setups
 
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|{{Dive Bomber}} {{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Fighter}}
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|{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{Seaplane}} {{AA Shell}}
|This is only to be used when having [[:Category:Anti-Installation Dive Bombers|anti-installation dive bombers]]. It will allow the carrier to still perform CVCI against other targets.
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|The standard anti-installation setup for heavy cruisers. It allows artillery spotting and deals decent damage against installations.
 
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|{{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Fighter}}
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|{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{AA Shell}}
|The number of torpedo bombers and fighters in this setup can be varied depending on the amount of fighter power required. This is the standard carrier anti-installation setup. While it does sacrifice CVCI, the carrier shelling formula, and proficiency bonuses, it still ensures that carriers will do significant damage to installations and other targets.
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|This is an alternative setup only for CAV. It removes the ability to artillery spot for much more powerful anti-installation damage at night.
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{{Med Gun}} {{Seaplane}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{AA Shell}}+{{Green Gun}}
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|For {{Class|Mogami|Kai Ni}} with a RE, this setup additionally maintains the artillery spoting.
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|{{Med Gun}} {{Minisub}} {{SPB}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}}+{{Green Gun}}
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| This setup is for [[Mogami Kai Ni]], allowing for oTorp, artillery spiting, and DA with anti-installation bonuses
 
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!colspan=2|Anti-SDP setups
 
!colspan=2|Anti-SDP setups
 
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|{{Dive Bomber}} {{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Landing Craft}}
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|{{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}<br>{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}<br>{{Med Gun}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}+{{Green Gun}}
|{{TextGlow|'''CV-Nuke Setup'''|black|text-colour=#A9F377|glow-size=2px}}, [[Gambier Bay Mk.II]] & [[Unyou|Unyou Kai/Ni]] only.
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|{{TextGlow|'''Nuke Setup'''|black|text-colour=#A9F377|glow-size=2px}}, [[Mogami Kai Ni Toku]] only.
*A setup combining CVCI with landing craft bonuses ([[:Category:Anti-Installation Dive Bombers|anti-installation dive bomber]] still required).
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*The last setup uses Mogami's ability to carry {{EquipmentLink|8cm High-angle Gun|8cm High-angle Gun Kai + Additional Machine Guns|text=8cm High-angle Guns}} in her [[RE]], making this a true nuke setup while keeping the Double Attack.
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|{{Dive Bomber}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}} {{WildCard}}
 
|{{TextGlow|'''Nuke Setup'''|black|text-colour=#A9F377|glow-size=2px}}, [[Houshou Kai Ni Sen]], [[Gambier Bay Mk.II]] & [[Unyou|Unyou Kai/Ni]] only.
 
*Sacrifices CVCI for larger "nuke" bonuses (requires [[:Category:Anti-Installation Dive Bombers|anti-installation dive bomber]]).
 
*The 4th slot can be used to carry a {{Dive Bomber}}/{{Fighter}}/{{ASWPlane}}/{{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}}, depending on the situation.
 
 
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[[RE]] recommendations:
 
[[RE]] recommendations:
*{{Extra Armor}} [[Extra Armor]] in most cases,
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*In most cases, {{AA Shell}} are better by bringing additional bonuses, especially the Kai & Kai 2 varainat that brings {{Firepower}}
*The {{Equipment/Card|12cm 30-tube Rocket Launcher Kai 2|size=36px}} {{Equipment/Link|12cm 30-tube Rocket Launcher Kai 2|text=RoSa K2}} when facing air power,
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*The {{IconText|{{Aviation Personnel}}|SDP}} {{Equipment/Link|Skilled Deck Personnel + Aviation Maintenance Hands|text=SDP+}} to increase carrier damage output.
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;CAV
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All setups applicable to CA are fully applicable to CAV, with the possibility to also utilize {{AntiGroundArtillery}}:
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*{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{Seaplane}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}}+{{AA Shell}} virtually autocap against all install ations
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*{{Med Gun}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}} {{AntiGroundArtillery}}+{{Green Gun}} night da pseudonuke
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*{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{Seaplane}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}}: daytime da anti install, useful against enemies where t3 shell is not effective
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*{{Med Gun}} {{Med Gun}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}}: night DA anti install
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*{{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}} {{WildCard}} {{WildCard}}: when spotting is unavailable, but u dont need significant nb dmg
  
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;anti-SDP/pseudo-install setups:
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*{{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}} {{WildCard}}: basic nuke setup. not every dlc "works", check anti-install modifiers for details. The wild card can be used for auxiliary purposes if the sdp hp is relatively low, such as in 6-4 or 7-5
  
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*{{Landing Craft}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}: big nuke setup. a dlc can be replaced with {{AntiGroundArtillery}} if u lack good ones.
  
  
;CV(B/V)
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*{{Med Gun}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}+{{Green Gun}}: nb da nuke
In many cases, carriers are used in anti install fleet to remove non install ships, so that ships with anti install setups can target installs. however, they can also carry anti-install setups:
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*{{Med Gun}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Landing Craft}} {{Amphibious Tank}}+{{Green Gun}}: nb big nuke
*{{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Dive Bomber}} (anti-install) {{Fighter}}: regular cvci setup can dmg installs if contains anti install dive bombers
 
i dont agree with using blue+green setups for anti install
 
*{{Torpedo Bomber}} {{Dive Bomber}} {{WildCard}} {{Landing Craft}}: gamby/unyou, effective in escort when combined vs single, especially unyou k2, who can shell in nb with regular nb formula if not satisfying night time carrier attack conditions
 
*{{Dive Bomber}} {{WildCard}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}} {{Landing Craft}}/{{Amphibious Tank}}: note that tonk is only possible on houshou
 

Revision as of 16:56, 24 March 2024

Medium Caliber Main GunSeaplaneAnti-Ground RocketAnti-Aircraft Shell+High-Angle Gun
Equipment Setup Notes
General anti-installation setups
Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Seaplane Anti-Aircraft Shell The standard anti-installation setup for heavy cruisers. It allows artillery spotting and deals decent damage against installations.
Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Anti-Ground Rocket Anti-Aircraft Shell This is an alternative setup only for CAV. It removes the ability to artillery spot for much more powerful anti-installation damage at night.
For Mogami-class Kai Ni with a RE, this setup additionally maintains the artillery spoting.
Medium Caliber Main Gun Midget SubmarineMinisub Seaplane BomberBomber Landing Craft/Amphibious Vehicle+High-Angle Gun This setup is for Mogami Kai Ni, allowing for oTorp, artillery spiting, and DA with anti-installation bonuses
Anti-SDP setups
Anti-Ground Rocket Anti-Ground Rocket Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle
Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle
Medium Caliber Main Gun Anti-Ground Rocket Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle+High-Angle Gun
Nuke Setup , Mogami Kai Ni Toku only.
  • The last setup uses Mogami's ability to carry 8cm High-angle Guns8cm High-angle Gun
    8cm High-angle Gun Kai + Additional Machine Guns
    in her RE, making this a true nuke setup while keeping the Double Attack.

RE recommendations:

  • In most cases, Anti-Aircraft Shell are better by bringing additional bonuses, especially the Kai & Kai 2 varainat that brings Firepower



CAV

All setups applicable to CA are fully applicable to CAV, with the possibility to also utilize Anti-Ground Rocket:

  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Seaplane Anti-Ground Rocket+Anti-Aircraft Shell virtually autocap against all install ations
  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Anti-Ground Rocket Anti-Ground Rocket Anti-Ground Rocket+High-Angle Gun night da pseudonuke


  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Seaplane Landing Craft/Amphibious Vehicle: daytime da anti install, useful against enemies where t3 shell is not effective
  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Medium Caliber Main Gun Landing Craft/Amphibious Vehicle: night DA anti install
  • Landing Craft/Amphibious Vehicle Wildcard Wildcard : when spotting is unavailable, but u dont need significant nb dmg
anti-SDP/pseudo-install setups
  • Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle Wildcard : basic nuke setup. not every dlc "works", check anti-install modifiers for details. The wild card can be used for auxiliary purposes if the sdp hp is relatively low, such as in 6-4 or 7-5
  • Landing Craft Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle: big nuke setup. a dlc can be replaced with Anti-Ground Rocket if u lack good ones.


  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle+High-Angle Gun: nb da nuke
  • Medium Caliber Main Gun Landing Craft Landing Craft Amphibious Vehicle+High-Angle Gun: nb big nuke