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* 2 x Main + 1 Seaplane + 1 Radar........................(highest DA chance)
* 2 x Main + 1 Seaplane + 1 Radar........................(highest DA chance)
''>> DA Damage: 120% (post cap) x 2. More powerful for ships with high shelling accuracy and against lighter armor units.''
''>> DA Damage: 120% (post cap) x 2. More powerful for ships with high shelling accuracy and against higher evasion, lighter armor units.''
==== Cut-In ====
==== Cut-In ====
== The Trigger Chance of Artillery Spotting: (Beta ver.) ==
== The Trigger Chance of Artillery Spotting: (Beta ver.) ==
Possible factors are listed below, followed by their '''''estimated''''' effects. These values / formula ''might ''be far from the actual ones, but they do give good estimates for the activation rates
Possible factors are listed below, followed by their '''''estimated''''' effects. These values / formula ''might ''be far from the actual ones, but they do give good estimates for the activation rates. For more info on how each factor was evaluated, you may consult [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_ASTRE_Project_(work_in_progress) here].
The first 5 factors are derived from [http://kankoregouchin.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-23.html 艦これ-チラ裏検証-] ''(click [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Translation_on_Kuubowokyuu%27s_Exp%27ts_on_the_Trigger_Rates_of_Artillery_Spotting here] for a translated version)'' and will be verified in future experiments. In addition, these hypothesis will be used as ''fundamental assumptions'' in experiment data analysis.:
The first 5 factors are derived from [http://kankoregouchin.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-23.html 艦これ-チラ裏検証-] ''(click [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Translation_on_Kuubowokyuu%27s_Exp%27ts_on_the_Trigger_Rates_of_Artillery_Spotting here] for a translated version)'' and can be verified in future experiments. In addition, these hypothesis will be used as ''fundamental assumptions'' in experiment data analysis.:
# '''<u>Being the flagship / </u>'''旗艦 (+15% for both rates)
# '''<u>Being the flagship / </u>'''旗艦 (+15% for both rates)
# '''<u>Radar & type / </u>'''電探 (+30% CI chance, +13% DA chance, maximum)
# '''<u>Radar & type / </u>'''電探 (+30% CI chance, +13% DA chance, maximum)
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<nowiki> </nowiki>The following factors ''might'' have an effect on the trigger rates:
<nowiki> </nowiki>The following factors ''might'' have an effect on the trigger rates:
# '''Fatigue / 疲労度''' (No effects after Xmas update ?? Severe fatigue penalty was estimated to be -12% on DA chance)
# '''Fatigue / 疲労度''' (No effects ?? Severe fatigue penalty was estimated to be -12% on DA chance, before Xmas update, 2014)
# '''Health state / HP''' (Less than 5% penalty on DA chance ?? )
# '''Health state / HP''' (Negligible effect ?? )
# '''Level / レベル '''(Negligible effects ?? Assumption based on test results [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Further_Study_on_the_Factors_Affecting_Trigger_Rates_of_Artillery_Spotting#.5B_Exp.27t_D_.5D_2 here])
# '''Level / レベル '''(Negligible effect ?? Assumption based on test results [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Further_Study_on_the_Factors_Affecting_Trigger_Rates_of_Artillery_Spotting#.5B_Exp.27t_D_.5D_2 here])
# '''Formation / 陣形'''
# '''Formation / 陣形'''
4. If we replace the extra seaplane with a '''radar,''' and compare the results to those from the standard situation:
4. If we replace the extra seaplane with a '''radar,''' and compare the results to those from the standard situation:
- DA rate rises by 4 % ~ 13 % approximately, depending on the '''''accuracy stat''''' of the radar ?? (verification required)
- DA rate rises by 4 % ~ 13 % approximately, depending on the '''''accuracy stat''''' of the radar ??
- CI rate rises by 30% (any surface radar) or 25% (AA radar), approximately ?? (verification required)
- CI rate rises by ~30% (surface radar) or ~26% (AA radar), depending on the '''''LoS stat''''' of the radar ??
===== - List of radars with their Estimated DA/CI rate modifier (Require further verification) =====
===== - List of radars with their Estimated DA/CI rate modifier (Require further verification) =====
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CI chance bonus Estimate
''CI chance bonus Estimate''
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LoS stat
''LoS stat''
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DA chance bonus Estimate
DA chance bonus Estimate
Accuracy stat
Accuracy stat
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|#22 Surface Radar
|No.22 Surface
|<nowiki>+30%</nowiki>
|''+27%''
|<nowiki>+5</nowiki>
|''+5''
|<nowiki>+4%</nowiki>
|<nowiki>+3</nowiki>
|-
|-
|#22 Kai 4 Surface Radar
|No.22 Kai-4 Surface
|<nowiki>+30%</nowiki>
|''+27%''
|<nowiki>+5</nowiki>
|''+5''
|'''''+13%'''''
|<nowiki>+13%</nowiki>
|'''''+8'''''
|<nowiki>+8</nowiki>
|-
|'''No.32 Surface'''
|'''''+30%'''''
|'''''+10'''''
|'''+13%'''
|'''+8'''
|-
|-
|#32 Surface Radar
|FuMO25 AA Radar
|<nowiki>+30%</nowiki>
|''+26%''
|''+9''
|<nowiki>+14% ( ?? )</nowiki>
|<nowiki>+10</nowiki>
|<nowiki>+10</nowiki>
|-
|-
|FuMO25 ''AA ''Radar
|No.14 AA Radar
|''+24%''
|''+25% ??''
|<nowiki>+9</nowiki>
|''+5''
|'''''+16% ??'''''
|<nowiki>+6% ( ?? )</nowiki>
|'''''+10'''''
|<nowiki>+4</nowiki>
|-
|No.21 AA Radar
|''+22% ??''
|''+4''
|( ?? )
|<nowiki>+2</nowiki>
|}
|}
5. Different seaplane scouts vary slightly in the DA chance bonus.
5. Different seaplane scouts vary slightly in the DA chance bonus.
- '''Type 0 Observation Plane''' & '''Prototype Seiran''' ''(+ 6 LoS)'' give the highest bonus. (+1%) ??
- '''Type 0 Observation Plane''' & '''Prototype Seiran''' ''(+ 6 LoS)'' give the highest bonus. (+2%) ??
- Night Scout ''(+ 3 LoS)'' gives less bonus on DA chance (-2%) ??
- Night Scout ''(+ 3 LoS)'' gives less bonus on DA chance (-2%) ??
- Different seaplanes have no effect on CI chance ??
- Different seaplanes have no effect on CI chance ??
- '''''This part is currently negligible in DA/CI rate estimation.'''''
- '''''This part is currently neglected in DA/CI rate estimation.'''''
===== - List of seaplanes with their Estimated DA rate modifier (Extremely rough estimates, NOT used in calculation) =====
===== - List of seaplanes with their Estimated DA rate modifier (Extremely rough estimates, NOT used in calculation) =====
- For an AP hybrid setup, overload (eg. 46cm x2 on Nagato Class) may shift some DA chances into CI. Therefore, for BBs with low firepower, you may consider using an overload setup for more firepower & CI when encountering high armor, low evasion enemies.'' (Hypothesis Only)''
- For an AP hybrid setup, overload (eg. 46cm x2 on Nagato Class) may shift some DA chances into CI. Therefore, for BBs with low firepower, you may consider using an overload setup for more firepower & CI when encountering high armor, low evasion enemies.'' (Hypothesis Only)''
<nowiki> </nowiki>- Since AP shells are not accessible to CA(V), their maximum CI damage is '''''120% post cap''''' with radar. However, if secondary-gun hybrid is used on CA, it could be 130%, but reliability has not been tested (overweight penalty?).
<nowiki> </nowiki>- Since AP shells are not accessible to CA(V), their maximum CI damage is '''''120% post cap''''' with radar. However, if secondary-gun hybrid is used on CA, it could be 130%, but reliability has not been tested (lower accuracy expected).
- Read more: [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nainodel/All_About_Firepower#How_much_damage_will_I_deal.3F Comparative study on DA/CI with sample enemies] .
- Read more: [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nainodel/All_About_Firepower#How_much_damage_will_I_deal.3F Comparative study on DA/CI with sample enemies] .