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=Akashi's greed= | =Akashi's greed= | ||
− | The goal is to set up some tabs to identify where it is statistically cheaper to toggle or not the | + | The goal is to set up some tabs to identify where it is statistically cheaper to toggle or not the guaranteed improvement. |
Reminder : | Reminder : | ||
− | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center | + | {|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" |
− | |||
!Modification Level | !Modification Level | ||
− | ! 1★ | + | ! 1★!! 2★!! 3★!! 4★!! 5★!! 6★!! 7★!! 8★!! 9★!! Max★!! Upgrade |
− | ! 2★ | ||
− | ! 3★ | ||
− | ! 4★ | ||
− | ! 5★ | ||
− | ! 6★ | ||
− | ! 7★ | ||
− | ! 8★ | ||
− | ! 9★ | ||
− | ! Max★ | ||
− | ! Upgrade | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Akashi | !Akashi | ||
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| 100% || 100% || 100% || 100% || 100% || 95% || 90% || 82% || 77% || 67% || 62% | | 100% || 100% || 100% || 100% || 100% || 95% || 90% || 82% || 77% || 67% || 62% | ||
|} | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | Some science : | ||
+ | <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> | ||
+ | Average screw cost when not guaranteed, assuming Akashi is Kai and not counting any equipment cost : | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[File:Average costs.png|750px]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | Screw cost difference when guaranteed : | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[File:Scew costs.png|1000px]] | ||
+ | |||
+ | As expected, when the guaranteed cost is too high, not guaranteeing the upgrade is on average cheaper screw-wise, but this is not counting any potential equipment that may be lost and so may imply a higher screw cost. | ||
+ | </div> | ||
+ | |||
+ | Guaranteeing worthiness per base upgrade screw cost: | ||
+ | <tabber> | ||
+ | |-|General rules= | ||
+ | When upgrading any equipment, Devmats and Screw are consumed, and eventually one or several equipment and consumables. | ||
+ | *Since obtaining Devmats is not an issue, their cost is simply ignored. | ||
+ | *Since failing an upgrade does not consume any consumables, they are ignored. | ||
+ | *For equipment consumed : | ||
+ | **If they are craftable or relatively easy to obtain, their cost is negligible in front of any screw cost. | ||
+ | **If the equipment consumed is a very rare one, then guaranteeing the upgrade should be evident. | ||
+ | **If the equipment consumed is itself made via Akashi's upgrades, '''then its total screw cost must be added to the base screw costs used in later examples. | ||
+ | |-|0= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 0|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 1+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|1= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 1|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 2+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|2= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 2|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 3|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 4+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|3= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 3|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 4|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 5+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|4= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 4|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 5|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 6|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|5= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 5|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 6|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|6= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 6|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|7= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|8= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|9= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|10= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|11= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 18+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|12= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 18|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|13= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 13|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 18|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|14= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 18|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 22|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 23+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|15= | ||
+ | {|class="wikitable" | ||
+ | !guaranteed cost | ||
+ | !1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in {{Star}}) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16|| 6th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 17|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 18|| 7th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19|| 8th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 20|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 22|| 9th {{Star}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 23|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 24|| {{MaxStar}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 25+|| Never | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |-|16+= | ||
+ | There is only one equipment with a base brut screw cost above 15 (the [[SK Radar]]), and as every equipment consuming expensive "Akashi exclusive" or rare equipment, the average screw cost is less important that the raw cost, meaning that guaranteeing the upgrade is always worth it | ||
+ | |||
+ | </tabber> |
Latest revision as of 20:46, 11 June 2023
Akashi's greed
The goal is to set up some tabs to identify where it is statistically cheaper to toggle or not the guaranteed improvement.
Reminder :
Modification Level | 1★ | 2★ | 3★ | 4★ | 5★ | 6★ | 7★ | 8★ | 9★ | Max★ | Upgrade |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Akashi | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 95% | 90% | 80% | 77% | 72% | 60% | 50% |
Akashi Kai | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 95% | 90% | 82% | 77% | 67% | 62% |
Some science :
Average screw cost when not guaranteed, assuming Akashi is Kai and not counting any equipment cost :
Screw cost difference when guaranteed :
As expected, when the guaranteed cost is too high, not guaranteeing the upgrade is on average cheaper screw-wise, but this is not counting any potential equipment that may be lost and so may imply a higher screw cost.
Guaranteeing worthiness per base upgrade screw cost:
When upgrading any equipment, Devmats and Screw are consumed, and eventually one or several equipment and consumables.
- Since obtaining Devmats is not an issue, their cost is simply ignored.
- Since failing an upgrade does not consume any consumables, they are ignored.
- For equipment consumed :
- If they are craftable or relatively easy to obtain, their cost is negligible in front of any screw cost.
- If the equipment consumed is a very rare one, then guaranteeing the upgrade should be evident.
- If the equipment consumed is itself made via Akashi's upgrades, then its total screw cost must be added to the base screw costs used in later examples.
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
9 | 6th |
10 | 6th |
11 | 8th |
12 | 9th |
13 | 9th |
14 | |
15+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
10 | 6th |
11 | 6th |
12 | 7th |
13 | 9th |
14 | 9th |
15 | |
16 | |
17+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
11 | 6th |
12 | 6th |
13 | 7th |
14 | 8th |
15 | 9th |
16 | 9th |
17 | |
18+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
12 | 6th |
13 | 6th |
14 | 7th |
15 | 8th |
16 | 9th |
17 | 9th |
18 | |
19 | |
20+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
13 | 6th |
14 | 6th |
15 | 7th |
16 | 8th |
17 | 9th |
18 | 9th |
19 | 9th |
20 | |
21+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
14 | 6th |
15 | 6th |
16 | 7th |
17 | 7th |
18 | 8th |
19 | 9th |
20 | 9th |
21 | |
22 | |
23+ | Never |
guaranteed cost | 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in ) |
---|---|
15 | 6th |
16 | 6th |
17 | 7th |
18 | 7th |
19 | 8th |
20 | 9th |
21 | 9th |
22 | 9th |
23 | |
24 | |
25+ | Never |
There is only one equipment with a base brut screw cost above 15 (the SK Radar), and as every equipment consuming expensive "Akashi exclusive" or rare equipment, the average screw cost is less important that the raw cost, meaning that guaranteeing the upgrade is always worth it