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Average screw cost when not guaranteed, assuming Akashi is Kai and not counting any equipment cost :
 
Average screw cost when not guaranteed, assuming Akashi is Kai and not counting any equipment cost :
  
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As expected, when the guaranteed cost is too high, not guaranteeing the upgrade is on average cheaper screw-wise, but this is not counting any potential equipment that may be lost and so may imply a higher screw cost.
 
As expected, when the guaranteed cost is too high, not guaranteeing the upgrade is on average cheaper screw-wise, but this is not counting any potential equipment that may be lost and so may imply a higher screw cost.
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Guaranteeing worthiness per base upgrade screw cost:
 
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| Never
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| 12
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| 1st [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| 19
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| Never
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| Never
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| 1st [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 6th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 7th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 7th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 20
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 21
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| Never
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| 1st [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 6th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 7th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 8th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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| 20
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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|-
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| 21
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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|-
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| 22
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| 9th [[File:Icon Star.png]]
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|-
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| 23
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| 24
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| [[File:Icon Imp.png]]
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| Never
  
 
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Revision as of 12:06, 12 March 2022

Akashi's greed

The goal is to set up some tabs to identify where it is statistically cheaper to toggle or not the guarateed improvement.

Reminder :

Modification Level 1★ 2★ 3★ 4★ 5★ 6★ 7★ 8★ 9★ Max★ Upgrade
Akashi 100% 100% 100% 100% 95% 90% 80% 77% 72% 60% 50%
Akashi Kai 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 95% 90% 82% 77% 67% 62%

Some science :

Average screw cost when not guaranteed, assuming Akashi is Kai and not counting any equipment cost :

Average costs.png

Screw cost difference when guaranteed :

Scew costs.png

As expected, when the guaranteed cost is too high, not guaranteeing the upgrade is on average cheaper screw-wise, but this is not counting any potential equipment that may be lost and so may imply a higher screw cost.

Guaranteeing worthiness per base upgrade screw cost:

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
0 1st Icon Star.png
1+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
1 1st Icon Star.png
2+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
2 1st Icon Star.png
3 Icon Imp.png
4+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
3 1st Icon Star.png
4 8th Icon Star.png
5+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
4 1st Icon Star.png
5 8th Icon Star.png
6 Icon Imp.png
7+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
5 1st Icon Star.png
6 7th Icon Star.png
7 9th Icon Star.png
8 Icon Imp.png
9+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
6 1st Icon Star.png
7 7th Icon Star.png
8 9th Icon Star.png
9 Icon Imp.png
10+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
7 1st Icon Star.png
8 7th Icon Star.png
9 8th Icon Star.png
10 9th Icon Star.png
11 Icon Imp.png
12+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
8 1st Icon Star.png
9 7th Icon Star.png
10 8th Icon Star.png
11 9th Icon Star.png
12 Icon Imp.png
13+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
9 1st Icon Star.png
10 6th Icon Star.png
11 8th Icon Star.png
12 9th Icon Star.png
13 9th Icon Star.png
14 Icon Imp.png
15+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
10 1st Icon Star.png
11 6th Icon Star.png
12 7th Icon Star.png
13 9th Icon Star.png
14 9th Icon Star.png
15 Icon Imp.png
16 Icon Imp.png
17+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
11 1st Icon Star.png
12 6th Icon Star.png
13 7th Icon Star.png
14 8th Icon Star.png
15 9th Icon Star.png
16 9th Icon Star.png
17 Icon Imp.png
18+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
12 1st Icon Star.png
13 6th Icon Star.png
14 7th Icon Star.png
15 8th Icon Star.png
16 9th Icon Star.png
17 9th Icon Star.png
18 Icon Imp.png
19 Icon Imp.png
20+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
13 1st Icon Star.png
14 6th Icon Star.png
15 7th Icon Star.png
16 8th Icon Star.png
17 9th Icon Star.png
18 9th Icon Star.png
19 9th Icon Star.png
20 Icon Imp.png
21+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
14 1st Icon Star.png
15 6th Icon Star.png
16 7th Icon Star.png
17 7th Icon Star.png
18 8th Icon Star.png
19 9th Icon Star.png
20 9th Icon Star.png
21 Icon Imp.png
22 Icon Imp.png
23+ Never

guaranteed cost 1st time guaranteeing is worth it (in Icon Star.png)
15 1st Icon Star.png
16 6th Icon Star.png
17 7th Icon Star.png
18 7th Icon Star.png
19 8th Icon Star.png
20 9th Icon Star.png
21 9th Icon Star.png
22 9th Icon Star.png
23 Icon Imp.png
24 Icon Imp.png
25+ Never

There is only one equipment with a base brut screw cost above 15 (the SK Radar), and as every equipment consuming expensive "Akashi exclusive" or rare equipment, the average screw cost is less important that the raw cost, meaning that guaranteeing the upgrade is always worth it