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===Totaku's Proposal===

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'''~~Preperation~~'''

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'''Preparation'''

In this operation you will be undergoing a rather simple, but very difficult map where you'll be doing an ASW segment followed by a battle with a Carrier for the 2nd part. There's no special requirements needed outside of depending on the difficulty, you will need to bring additional historical ships. And for the carrier segment you will need to prepare a considerable amount of air power to stand a chance at winning so below are the following questions:

#Do you have Toukai or ASW capable planes?

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#Do you have a sizeable crew of ~~historcial~~ ships that can ASW?

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#Do you have a sizeable crew of historical ships that can ASW?

#Can you make some ships that are not generally meant for ASW combat into OASW ships?

#Do you have a large amount of good fighter planes including Seaplane Fighters?

#Do you have a sizeable team of historical ships to take on both bosses?

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#Do you have Nagato Kai Ni?

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#Do you have Nagato Kai Ni?

#Do you also have Mutsu Kai Ni?

#Do you have Fusou Kai 2? (Optional)

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#Do you have Reinforcement expansions you can put on Nagato, Mutsu, Fusou or and other slow ship you bring?

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If you have said yes to the ASW related questions, then part one along with part of part 2 should be easy enough to complete. If you said yes to question 4-5 you should able to do both segment but you will need to get Nagato to Kai Ni if ~~possibe~~ if you haven't done so.

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If you have said yes to the ASW related questions, then part one along with part of part 2 should be easy enough to complete. If you said yes to question 4-5 you should able to do both segment but you will need to get Nagato to Kai Ni if possible if you haven't done so.

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If Nagato is Kai Ni, then you will have a much ~~eaiser~~ on the map on ~~highter~~ difficulties with her historical bonus and special attack. Mutsu is a ~~preffered~~ option to have with her but Fusou can work as an alternative due to her historical bonus. But if some reason you're lacking in Nagato Kai Ni, it's recommended to reconsider your options regarding this map in terms of difficulty as it'll become ~~difficulty~~ if not impossible on ~~difficitlies~~ like hard.

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If Nagato is Kai Ni, then you will have a much easier on the map on higher difficulties with her historical bonus and special attack. Mutsu is a preferred option to have with her but Fusou can work as an alternative due to her historical bonus. But if some reason you're lacking in Nagato Kai Ni, it's recommended to reconsider your options regarding this map in terms of difficulty as it'll become difficult if not impossible on difficulties like hard.

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If you have turbines and boilers, then you shouldn't have a problem taking the ~~eaiser~~ path to the boss, but if for some reason you don't have any of these and have no way to speed mod, prepare to face more air battles along the way which can become problematic on clearing the map.

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If you have turbines and boilers, then you shouldn't have a problem taking the easier path to the boss, but if for some reason you don't have any of these and have no way to speed mod, prepare to face more air battles along the way which can become problematic on clearing the map.

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'''~~Histrorical~~ Bonuses'''

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'''Historical Bonuses'''

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On this map, ship that are tied to the Davao Island Patrol and Group B of the Battles of the ~~Phillipians~~ are relevant to the operation as they will all have bonuses. So it is recommended to use ships associated with that campaign under this tag. If you have been ~~carefuly~~ enough you may have been able to conserve Hibiki/Verniy up to this point. Which will make her vital for here. Along with Kazagumo who is also relatively strong. But be aware, that there are still a small group of ships that while historically ~~relavent~~ to here can also be important for the final map. So as noted before hand. '''~~Carfully~~ consider who you lock on this map, this is the 2nd to final map and will serve as your final ~~road block~~ before the final tag.'''

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On this map, ship that are tied to the Davao Island Patrol and Group B of the Battles of the Philippines are relevant to the operation as they will all have bonuses. So it is recommended to use ships associated with that campaign under this tag. If you have been carefully enough you may have been able to conserve Hibiki/Verniy up to this point. Which will make her vital for here. Along with Kazagumo who is also relatively strong. But be aware, that there are still a small group of ships that while historically relevant to here can also be important for the final map. So as noted before hand. '''Carefully consider who you lock on this map, this is the 2nd to final map and will serve as your final roadblock before the final tag.'''

'''Part 1 Bonus for Node J:'''

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* '''DD:''' [[Hibiki|Hibiki/Verniy]], [[Asagumo]], [[Kazagumo]] 1.20x bonus

* '''DD:''' [[Hatsushimo]], [[Shiratsuyu]], [[Shigure]], [[Hamakaze]] 1.15x bonus

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* '''Aux:''' [[Hayasui]] 1.15x (~~suepected~~, not fully confirmed)

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* '''Aux:''' [[Hayasui]] 1.15x (suspected, not fully confirmed)

'''Battle of Philippine Sea (Group B) every member gets 1.10x:'''

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* '''CA(V):''' [[Mogami]], [[Aoba]]

* '''CL:''' [[Kinu]]

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* '''DD:''' [[Samidare]](~~supected~~), [[Yamagumo]](~~supected~~), [[Michishio]], [[Nowaki]], [[Hayashimo]](suspected)

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* '''DD:''' [[Samidare]](suspected), [[Yamagumo]](suspected), [[Michishio]], [[Nowaki]], [[Hayashimo]](suspected)

'''E-5 part 2 (node O) Bonuuses'''

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*[[Hibiki|Hibiki/Verniy]], [[Asagumo]], [[Kazagumo]] 1.15x Extra Bonus

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*[[Hibiki|Hibiki/Verniy]], [[Asagumo]], [[Kazagumo]] 1.15x Extra Bonus

*Every other listed girl gets extra bonus 1.25x

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'''Step 1: Sink the [[Submarine Princess Kai]]'''

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In this phase you will be ~~organize~~ a single fleet which will be composed mostly of ASW ships. Which you'll need to go through a gauntlet consisting of Subs and surface ships. Overall, there is only one known comp that works effectively with slight ~~diviations~~ depending on what you select with it.

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In this phase you will be organized a single fleet which will be composed mostly of ASW ships. Which you'll need to go through a gauntlet consisting of Subs and surface ships. Overall, there is only one known comp that works effectively with slight deviations depending on what you select with it.

'''Fleet Composition''''

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* You will face off against 1 sub node, and 2 surface battles prior to the boss node

* Fleet will be ASW focused

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* Sub Fleet will consist of a [[New Submarine Princess]] which depending on the difficulty, may ~~reley~~ on Historical ASW units to take her out.

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* Sub Fleet will consist of a [[New Submarine Princess]] which depending on the difficulty, may rely on Historical ASW units to take her out.

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* Surface Fleets will consist of light cruisers, heavy cruisers and Destroyers in E and a ~~simlarlar~~ fleet with a light carrier on G.

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* Surface Fleets will consist of light cruisers, heavy cruisers and Destroyers in E and a similar fleet with a light carrier on G.

** Vanguard formation is recommended the two surface battles.

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* LBAS 1: '''4 Toukai / ASW Bombers with an ASW of 7 or greater''' (Concentrate on Node C)

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* Good for taking out the subs on Node C and possible ~~imcompacitating~~ the [[New Submarine ~~Princress~~]] making it easier to pass.

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* Good for taking out the subs on Node C and possible incapacitating the [[New Submarine Princess]] making it easier to pass.

* Good during the chipping phase of the run

* May present a possible issue for Node Node G and E as fleet will have to depend on vanguard to survive.

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* Can use 1 LBAS for chipping phase, but it's recommended to bring 2 for final kill.

* Can help wipe out some of the surface enemy ships on the boss node

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* Can ~~effectivelly~~ take out most enemy subs and damage [[Submarine Princess Kai]]

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* Can effectively take out most enemy subs and damage [[Submarine Princess Kai]]

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[[Submarine Princess Kai]] will come accompanied by 2 other So-class subs and 3 surface ships consisting of a CL and 2 DDs. While the core focus is to take out the Submarine princess, effectively farming this map will require you to take advantage of taking her out quickly and early on. One of the most ~~effecitve~~ ways in doing this is to bring historical OASW ships to the boss as the bonus provided from them should be strong enough to effectively take out the ~~Surbmarine~~ Princess relatively quickly. And ASW support fleet to the boss can also help chip her down so you can finish her off sooner. While it may be smart to have the LBAS be all ASW focus, you can opt to ~~spliting~~ some of them to Land Base Bombers to try to wipe out some of the surface ships as well to give you fleet an easier chance to S rank or kill the princess.

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[[Submarine Princess Kai]] will come accompanied by 2 other So-class subs and 3 surface ships consisting of a CL and 2 DDs. While the core focus is to take out the Submarine princess, effectively farming this map will require you to take advantage of taking her out quickly and early on. One of the most effective ways in doing this is to bring historical OASW ships to the boss as the bonus provided from them should be strong enough to effectively take out the Submarine Princess relatively quickly. And ASW support fleet to the boss can also help chip her down so you can finish her off sooner. While it may be smart to have the LBAS be all ASW focus, you can opt to split some of them to Land Base Bombers to try to wipe out some of the surface ships as well to give you fleet an easier chance to S rank or kill the princess.

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If for some reason you lack in ASW bombers or Toukai, you are likely will be playing on a lower difficulty on Medium or less which will need less effort to succeed or you can opt to bring a full historical ASW team or wait until friend fleet ~~arrive~~.

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If for some reason you lack in ASW bombers or Toukai, you are likely will be playing on a lower difficulty on Medium or less which will need less effort to succeed or you can opt to bring a full historical ASW team or wait until friend fleet arrives.

'''Step 2: Sink the [[Aircraft Carrier Princess Kai]]

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In this phase, the battle against the [[Aircraft Carrier Princess Kai]] varies significantly upon difficulty as depending on the difficulty, you will need to bring enough planes to hopefully secure Air superiority at the boss, but if you are partaking in '''Hard Mode''' , there is no way to ~~achive~~ AS without horribly ~~hadicapping~~ your fleet '''meaning the best you can ride on for the fight is to get Air Parity for the final fight''' and hope you fleet manages to score the ~~nessary~~ crits and hits needed to ~~achive~~ a victory in this fight.

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In this phase, the battle against the [[Aircraft Carrier Princess Kai]] varies significantly upon difficulty as depending on the difficulty, you will need to bring enough planes to hopefully secure Air superiority at the boss, but if you are partaking in '''Hard Mode''' , there is no way to achieve AS without horribly handicapping your fleet '''meaning the best you can ride on for the fight is to get Air Parity for the final fight''' and hope you fleet manages to score the necessary crits and hits needed to achieve a victory in this fight.

Below is the only effective composition that has been noted to work with some variation that will be noted below it:

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* Main Fleet will be composed of '''at least''' 2 fighter mules in the main fleet.

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* Escort Fleet will be ~~compose~~ of '''at most''' 3 OASW ships (Historical ~~preffered~~)

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* Escort Fleet will be composed of '''at most''' 3 OASW ships (Historical preferred)

* Your fleet will be engaging against 2 Submarine Battles, 1-2 Air Battles, and 2 Surface Battles prior to reaching the boss.

*If you limit your fleet to 1 CVL, you will avoid one air battle along the way

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*The best route requires that all ships be **fast** so if you want to bring strong heavy hitters like [[Nagato]], [[Mutusu]], or [[Fusou]] in the fleet, you will need to speed mod them [[Improving Ship Speed]].

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Overall, your fleet will have to survive a ~~guantlet~~ consisting of 2 [[New Submarine Princess]] fleets. Along with some strong air battles, so bringing someone good AA unit like [[Hamakaze]] can be a viable option, while also using dealing with the nasty carrier battle near the boss node. While the pre-boss node consist of only 2 CVLs, they are armed with a relatively difficulty plane ~~set up~~ that is recommended to take out as soon as possible to allow for a better passing rate. Keep in mind, that if you remove any DDs along the trip you will be forced into possible 3rd air battle which will have the worst air power to try to defend yourself against.

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Overall, your fleet will have to survive a gauntlet consisting of 2 [[New Submarine Princess]] fleets. Along with some strong air battles, so bringing someone good AA unit like [[Hamakaze]] can be a viable option, while also using dealing with the nasty carrier battle near the boss node. While the pre-boss node consist of only 2 CVLs, they are armed with a relatively difficulty plane setup that is recommended to take out as soon as possible to allow for a better passing rate. Keep in mind, that if you remove any DDs along the trip you will be forced into possible 3rd air battle which will have the worst air power to try to defend yourself against.

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Because of the ~~danagers~~ you will ~~be facing~~ along the way, it's highly recommended to just use node support to survive the major battles. On lower difficulties, it might be possible to survive without it, but in most cases you may want to prepare just in case.

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Because of the dangers you will face along the way, it's highly recommended to just use node support to survive the major battles. On lower difficulties, it might be possible to survive without it, but in most cases you may want to prepare just in case.

All your LBAS will be sent to the boss node as the boss battle will be very challenging.

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The Battle with the Carrier Princess Kai is a very hard fight as she will consist of a large group of carriers along with some CAs and BBs in the Main Fleet, and some CLs and DDs in the escort fleet.

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On Medium and below, it may be possible to ~~achive~~ AS with the help of 2 carrier being fighter mules, and if ~~nessary~~ an addition fighter from an Ise-class Kai 2, or Seaplane Fighter. This can ~~like~~ be ~~achived~~ across the entire course of the run.

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On Medium and below, it may be possible to achieve AS with the help of 2 carrier being fighter mules, and if necessary an addition fighter from an Ise-class Kai 2, or Seaplane Fighter. This can be achieved across the entire course of the run.

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However on Hard mode, this will only be ~~achiveable~~ until the final kill. Where she will then have a 2nd Carrier Princess Kai along with a team of flagship tier enemies making up the entire fleet. At this point, air superiority becomes impossible to ~~achive~~ without ~~severly~~ handicapping your fleet and as such the only solution is to attempt to ~~conqure~~ it through Air parity.

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However on Hard mode, this will only be achievable until the final kill. Where she will then have a 2nd Carrier Princess Kai along with a team of flagship tier enemies making up the entire fleet. At this point, air superiority becomes impossible to achieve without severely handicapping your fleet and as such the only solution is to attempt to conquer it through Air parity.

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In addition to this, bringing [[Nagato]] and [[Mutsu]] is highly recommended to allow you to perform ~~thier~~ broadside attack which will be vital to clearing out some of the ~~enimes~~ in the fleet along with taking ~~advantagr~~ of Nagato's bonus.

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In addition to this, bringing [[Nagato]] and [[Mutsu]] is highly recommended to allow you to perform their broadside attack which will be vital to clearing out some of the enemies in the fleet along with taking advantage of Nagato's bonus.

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Through using ~~the~~ combination of her special attack, along with powerful historical ships, a good LBAS attack, and a strong Support fleet attack, it can be possible to wither the boss down far enough to have a chance to reach night battle. From there, all you can depend on is a well placed TCI attack from a ship which will mostly likely be [[Myoukou]],[[Shigure]] or [[Hatsushimo]] to deliver the finishing blow to the Princess.

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Through using a combination of her special attack, along with powerful historical ships, a good LBAS attack, and a strong Support fleet attack, it can be possible to wither the boss down far enough to have a chance to reach night battle. From there, all you can depend on is a well placed TCI attack from a ship which will mostly likely be [[Myoukou]],[[Shigure]] or [[Hatsushimo]] to deliver the finishing blow to the Princess.

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Keep in mind though that this might be ~~difficulty~~ to ~~achive~~ if both princesses are alive. But it can be done if your ships aim at the correct target.

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Keep in mind though that this might be difficult to achieve if both princesses are alive. But it can be done if your ships aim at the correct target.

If the battle is still too much, it's '''highly recommended''' to wait until '''[[Friend Fleets]]''' arrive to help you out with deliver the final blow.

Once the Flagship [[Aircraft Carrier Princess Kai]] has been defeated the operation will be considered complete.

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