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5. Different seaplane scouts ''may'' vary slightly in their DA chance bonus: ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#Type_of_Seaplane source])  
 
5. Different seaplane scouts ''may'' vary slightly in their DA chance bonus: ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#Type_of_Seaplane source])  
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- '''Type 0 Observation Plane''' & '''Prototype Seiran''' ''(+ 6 LoS)'' give the highest bonus ?
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- '''Type 0 Observation Plane''' & '''Prototype Seiran''' ''(+ 6 LoS)'' give slightly higher bonus ?
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- Night Scout ''(+ 3 LoS)'' provides slightly less bonus on DA chance ?
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- Night Scout ''(+ 3 LoS)'' provides slightly less bonus ?
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- Different seaplanes have negligible effect on CI chance.
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- Negligible effect on CI chance.  
    
===== - List of Seaplanes with Estimated DA Rate Modifier (Rough estimates) =====
 
===== - List of Seaplanes with Estimated DA Rate Modifier (Rough estimates) =====
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6. For standard BB(V)s, aka non-Yamato class BBs, radars could be replaced by '''AP Shells''' for a cut-in setup (Main + Sec / AP / Seaplane), which gives ~20% trigger chance bonus on CI ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#.5BCI.5D_3 source]). However, you could also use AP shells (or Secondary)''' '''for a''' <u>hybrid set up</u>''' (2 Main / AP (or Secondary) / seaplane). In the standard situation, the combined Artillery Spotting chance is about '''70%'''.  
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6. For standard BB(V)s, aka non-Yamato class BBs, radars could be replaced by '''AP Shells''' for a cut-in setup (Main + Sec / AP / Seaplane), which gives ~20% trigger chance bonus on CI ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#.5BCI.5D_3 source]). However, you could also use AP shells (or Secondary)''' '''for a''' <u>hybrid set up</u>''' (2 Main / AP (or Secondary) / seaplane). In the standard situation, the combined Artillery Spotting chance is around '''70%'''.  
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- AP shell hybrid setup (with ''41cm x 2''): ''CI = ~38% & ''DA = ~32%.  ?
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- AP shell hybrid setup (with "''fit gun"''):             ''CI = ~38% & ''DA = ~32%.  ?
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- AP shell hybrid setup (with ''46cm x 2''):  ''CI = ~43% & ''DA = ~27%.  ?
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- AP shell hybrid setup (with "''overweight gun"''):  ''CI = ~43% & ''DA = ~27%.  ?
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- Secondary gun hybrid setup:               ''CI = ~50% & ''DA = ~20%.  ?
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- Secondary gun hybrid setup:                         ''CI = ~50% & ''DA = ~20%.  ?
    
- For hybrid setup, every 100 additional LoS <u>''will only increase CI chances by 5%.''</u>'' ? ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#.5BHYBRID.5D source])''
 
- For hybrid setup, every 100 additional LoS <u>''will only increase CI chances by 5%.''</u>'' ? ([http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Mid-Term_Report_on_the_ASTRE_Project#.5BHYBRID.5D source])''
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1)  Mutsu Kai, AS+, FLoS = 400, Type 0 Recon, AP shell setup with 41cm x 2:
 
1)  Mutsu Kai, AS+, FLoS = 400, Type 0 Recon, AP shell setup with 41cm x 2:
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE)'' + 5%''(LoS Modifier)'' = '''75%'''.
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE)'' + 5%''(LoS Modifier)'' = '''75%'''.
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** CI% = 38%''(AP BASE)'' + 5%''(LoS Modifier)'' = '''''43%'''''
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** <s>CI% = 38%''(AP BASE)'' + 5%''(LoS Modifier)'' = '''''43%'''''</s>
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** DA% = 32%''(AP BASE) = '''32%'''''
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** <s>DA% = 32%''(AP BASE) = '''32%'''''</s>
       
2)  Kongou Kai Ni, AS+, FLoS = 400, Type 0 Obsv., AP shell setup with 46cm x 2:
 
2)  Kongou Kai Ni, AS+, FLoS = 400, Type 0 Obsv., AP shell setup with 46cm x 2:
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE)''+ 5%''(LoS Modifier) + 3%<Type 0 Obsv.> ''= '''78%'''
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE)''+ 5%''(LoS Modifier) + 3%<Type 0 Obsv.> ''= '''78%'''
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** CI% = 43%''(AP BASE, Overload) ''+ 5%(LoS) ='' '''48%'''''
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** <s>CI% = 43%''(AP BASE, Overload) ''+ 5%(LoS) ='' '''48%'''''</s>
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** DA% = 27%''(AP BASE, Overload) + 3%(Obsv.Seaplane) = '''30%'''''
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** <s>DA% = 27%''(AP BASE, Overload) + 3%(Obsv.Seaplane) = '''30%'''''</s>
       
3) Nagato Kai, '''AS''', FLoS = 400, Type 0 Obsv., AP shell setup with 46cm x 2:
 
3) Nagato Kai, '''AS''', FLoS = 400, Type 0 Obsv., AP shell setup with 46cm x 2:
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE) - ''18%''(Air Superiority)''+ 5%''(LoS Modifier) + 3%<Type 0 Obsv.> ''= '''60%'''
 
* Total artillery spotting rate = 70%''(BASE) - ''18%''(Air Superiority)''+ 5%''(LoS Modifier) + 3%<Type 0 Obsv.> ''= '''60%'''
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** CI% = 43%''(AP BASE, Overload) - ''11%''(Air Superiority)''+ 5%(LoS) = '''''37%'''''
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** <s>CI% = 43%''(AP BASE, Overload) - ''11%''(Air Superiority)''+ 5%(LoS) = '''''37%'''''</s>
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** DA% = 27%''(AP BASE, Overload) - ''7%''(Air Superiority)+ 3%(Obsv.Seaplane) = '''23%'''''
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** <s>DA% = 27%''(AP BASE, Overload) - ''7%''(Air Superiority)+ 3%(Obsv.Seaplane) = '''23%'''''</s>
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- In-depth study on the effectiveness of BB(V) using AP hybrid setup: [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nainodel/All_About_Firepower#How_much_damage_will_I_deal.3F Comparative study on DA vs CI with sample enemies] ''(by Nainodel)''.     
 
- In-depth study on the effectiveness of BB(V) using AP hybrid setup: [http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nainodel/All_About_Firepower#How_much_damage_will_I_deal.3F Comparative study on DA vs CI with sample enemies] ''(by Nainodel)''.     
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- Preliminary test results [[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#II_-_The_Overweight_Penalty_on_FBB Source 1]][[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#III_-_The_Overweight_Penalty_on_BB_.28cont.27d.29 2]] shows the '''overweight penalty''' ''(eg. using too many 46cm on FBB)'' will somehow lower shelling accuracy from single attacks. It is suspected that this would affect Artillery Spotting, too. Nevertheless, the penalty could be largely offset by leveling (married ships), high morale ([http://kankoreshuukai.blog.jp/archives/2474494.html as high as possible]), and using 35.6cm (no variation suggested). Accuracy bonus from equipment ''might'' be helpful in countering the penalty.     
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- Preliminary test results [[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#II_-_The_Overweight_Penalty_on_FBB Source 1]][[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#III_-_The_Overweight_Penalty_on_BB_.28cont.27d.29 2]] shows the '''overweight penalty''' ''(eg. using too many 46cm on FBB)'' will somehow lower shelling accuracy from single attacks. It is suspected that this would affect Artillery Spotting, too. Nevertheless, the penalty could be largely offset by either leveling (married ships), high morale ([http://kankoreshuukai.blog.jp/archives/2474494.html as high as possible]), or using a fit gun for the BB ''(eg. 35.6cm on Kongou Class)''. Accuracy bonus from equipment would be helpful in countering the penalty.     
     
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